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HardBargain 21.09.2011 19:55

How strict are the Swiss when you move out?
 
When I moved in last year, I didn't really worry about telling my landlord about all of the problems when I moved in because my German was very, very bad. Now, I'm starting to worry as I am getting ready to move out. Several of my non-Swiss colleagues have just moved and have told me about how they were charged for many small things that happened to their apartment. I know in the US, a landlord is not able to charge you for normal wear and tear. Do Swiss landlords charge you for such things?

What I'm worried about is that there was a crack in the toilet when I moved in and over the past year it has gotten worse. Also, one of the burners on my stove only works on high. I'm guessing there's a potentiometer that is blown, but that's no more my fault than a burnt out light bulb. Naturally, I haven't told my landlord about it because I'm too lazy. Any thoughts?

herc82 21.09.2011 19:57

Re: How strict are the Swiss when you move out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HardBargain (Post 1348270)
When I moved in last year, I didn't really worry about telling my landlord about all of the problems when I moved in because my German was very, very bad.

Well, I am Swiss and moving out of my last apartment has been costly... check your original damages sheet and if necessary, do talk to the landlord - maybe, just maybe he might have an open ear.. but it's mostly goodwill at this point, since you will have signed all the papers when you moved in...

Best of luck.

Caviarchips 21.09.2011 20:01

Re: How strict are the Swiss when you move out?
 
Most of the answers here will be

"Very. You're ed"

And thats probably largely true.

BUT....

Whilst they will be tough on damage and will charge you for things which you were too lazy to report at the time, maintenance issues like the oven are not due to damage and you should report it to him now. In terms of the toilet....that's a tough one. I don't know how you can justify that. Sorry

Guest 21.09.2011 20:28

Re: How strict are the Swiss when you move out?
 
If anybody new to CH reads this thread - PLEASE MAKE A NOTE AND TAKE PHOTOS OF ANY LITTLE NICK, SCRATCH, DAMAGE, OR STAIN before you move in, and get the rentor to sign and date your report. Just like when you hire a car- otherwise you'll be open for great repair cost in most cases. And if you do not understand your contract- ask a friend or colleague to go through it with you with a tooth comb- and if necessary PAY somebody to do so - much, much cheaper and easier in the long run. Not understanding your contract due to lack of local language will NOT NOT NOT be an excuse for anything.
Bonne chance.

21.09.2011 20:30

Re: How strict are the Swiss when you move out?
 
http://www.englishforum.ch/housing-g...ight=wear+tear

kevlegs 21.09.2011 20:30

Re: How strict are the Swiss when you move out?
 
Make sure you have all the keys from the start of the tenancy or insurance to cover them if they get lost!!

wattsli1 21.09.2011 20:36

Re: How strict are the Swiss when you move out?
 
Well having moved twice here I have two totally opposite experiences. The first flat I moved from the owner was Warteck and they charged me for absolutely everything. Everything from insufficient cleaning of the oven to a red mark on the paintwork under a light switch - which I suspect was probably nail varnish and had I even noticed it I probably could have cleaned it off - but they charged me to repaint the entire wall. There was a mark on the windowsill caused by condensation which apparently was also my fault. etc etc basically I thought the flat was fine but I got less than half my 3 months deposit back!

Second time was when we were moving out of a house, where the owner lived next door. We'd had a baby while we were living there so you can imagine that he'd smacked his toys on the floor and created lots of dents, scrapes, bumps. We'd also done quite a bit of drilling and putting up shelves etc. we came to an arrangement that we'd leave the shelves that were fixed to the wall, and with one look at the floor he said "well, that's normal isn't it, kids can't be expected to be careful!" and that was it. We did hire a cleaner this time to do the final cleaning and the we got our full deposit back.

So, really, depends on your landlord really. They can charge you for all kinds of crap - including insufficient moving-out cleaning. But they may not!

nickatbasel 21.09.2011 22:07

Re: How strict are the Swiss when you move out?
 
If they try to charge you for damage, pass it to your insurance company and let the landlords argue the toss with them.

Cheers,
Nick


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