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UK Dishwasher to Switzerland

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I'm going to be bringing my old dishwasher from my UK home to Switzerland. Other than the obvious electrical connection differences, can anyone advise me as to whether the water connections etc will be compatible in Switzerland?

Many thanks in advance for your help.

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I'm going to be bringing my old dishwasher from my UK home to Switzerland. Other than the obvious electrical connection differences, can anyone advise me as to whether the water connections etc will be compatible in Switzerland?
Yes, normal water hoses and connectors are the same in CH as in the UK, and the waste pipe connections also. Be aware, though, that it's normal here for dishwashers to run off a 3-phase supply, so there may not be a suitable power outlet available. And clearly, don't just fit a plug that fits into the 3-phase socket
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Re: UK Dishwasher to Switzerland

All dishwashers that I've personally encountered here, only have a cold water feed and heat up the water with an electric element internally. If I remember correctly UK models have both hot and cold feeds.
You will be lucky to find existing plumbing for a dishwasher with both feeds, here. It would be costly to have the hot feed plumbed in, if possible in the first place (depending on where you find to live).
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Maybe check the size of the space where it's going to be installed. Swiss kitchen units (and therefore the spaces in between) seem to be different to the rest of Europe.
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All dishwashers that I've personally encountered here, only have a cold water feed and heat up the water with an electric element internally. If I remember correctly UK models have both hot and cold feeds.
Not in recent years, no. By which I mean the 1980s and 90s. But of course the OP should check, as such machines did exist.
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Often, but not always, 60x60x85 (cm) - at least for my self fitted Ikea kitchen in my old house ..... and 2 m/c's have so far fitted (from here).
However in my new house, with a professionally fitted kitchen, with appliances, the dishwasher is smaller.
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Re: UK Dishwasher to Switzerland

Swiss appliances are generally 580mm rather than 600mm, so if you have a kitchen that had previously had Swiss appliances (VZug and the like) then you will not fit a UK dishwasher in. Another way the prices are kept artificially high as once you have the hole, you are stuck to buying the appliance in CH.
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Re: UK Dishwasher to Switzerland

Are you moving into rented accomodation or buying a place here?

I presume that if it's the former, you've checked that there's not one already installed. (And that if there IS one installed that it works better than the one we have....you practically have to wash the dishes before you put them in!)

Good luck with the move
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Not in recent years, no. By which I mean the 1980s and 90s. But of course the OP should check, as such machines did exist.
The meaning of your post isn't clear (to me, at least). And, unless you're dealing in centuries, I wouldn't consider the 80's and 90's as recent years.

The long and short of my post is that if the OP has a m/c with hot and cold feeds, he/she will be lucky/unlikely to find the same plumbed set up here.

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The meaning of your post isn't clear (to me, at least).
I thought it was obvious, but what I was trying to say is that contrary to your post, most dishwashers available in the UK from at least the 1980s onwards only had cold water feeds, so would be fine here.
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The long and short of my post is that if the OP has a m/c with hot and cold feeds, she will be lucky/unlikely to find the same plumbed set up here.
Quite so.
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All dishwashers that I've personally encountered here, only have a cold water feed and heat up the water with an electric element internally.

If I remember correctly UK models have both hot and cold feeds.
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Not in recent years, no. By which I mean the 1980s and 90s. But of course the OP should check, as such machines did exist.
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The meaning of your post isn't clear (to me, at least).
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Your statement was made in response to my post, which contained 2 opposing statements, so it was unclear to which you were contradicting - hence my query as it was not as obvious as you think.

And when my parents replaced a dishwasher in the early 90's it had 2 inlet pipes - hot and cold.
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Re: UK Dishwasher to Switzerland

Even an old dishwasher with hot and cold feeds (same with old washing machines) can run off cold only. You buy a "splitter" (I've no idea what it's really called) which basically takes the one water feed and splits it into two, and you connect both the hot and cold intake pipes to it.

Some machines have an actual adapter to plug on the back of the machine which achieves the same goal. The dishwasher or washing machine will then take water from the hot feed as usual, but find it's full of cold water, and then heat it as required.

So no real biggie.
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Your statement was made in response to my post, which contained 2 opposing statements, so it was unclear to which you were contradicting - hence my query as it was not as obvious as you think.

And when my parents replaced a dishwasher in the early 90's it had 2 inlet pipes - hot and cold.
i think the point was that unless the guy is bringing in a 20 year old dishwasher, the hot/cold feed problem you highlighted is a non-issue/red-herring.
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CH is so verkachte when it comes to appliances I'd say just sell your UK machine and get a new one. If you're renting an apartment you won't even need it.
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Even an old dishwasher with hot and cold feeds (same with old washing machines) can run off cold only. You buy a "splitter" (I've no idea what it's really called) which basically takes the one water feed and splits it into two, and you connect both the hot and cold intake pipes to it.

Some machines have an actual adapter to plug on the back of the machine which achieves the same goal. The dishwasher or washing machine will then take water from the hot feed as usual, but find it's full of cold water, and then heat it as required.

So no real biggie.
For someone who can't even buy a bus ticket, you are surprisingly erudite when it comes to dishwashers
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For someone who can't even buy a bus ticket, you are surprisingly erudite when it comes to dishwashers
He is perfectly capable of buying a bus ticket. He just prefers to ride his bicycle for some strange reason.
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Are you moving into rented accomodation or buying a place here?

I presume that if it's the former, you've checked that there's not one already installed. (And that if there IS one installed that it works better than the one we have....you practically have to wash the dishes before you put them in!)

Good luck with the move

Hi

We own the house here in CH (moved about a year ago). There is an old dishwasher here, but it sounds like the one you have at home!!! I'm in the process of selling my UK house and have considered bringing our dishwasher that we had over there to CH (as it worked really well). Obviously I need to check dimensions etc. But I'm really grateful for all the useful replies I've received here. Clearly (as I suspected) there is more to check than whether the dimensions will be suitable!!!

Thanks to everyone for your replies.
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For someone who can't even buy a bus ticket, you are surprisingly erudite when it comes to dishwashers
One needs some weird sounding foreign language, like German, and one doesn't.
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