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Re: Exorbitant cleaning bill

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Ahhhhh, you've made me go all nostalgic. Here's my post from years ago. I was properly Switzerlanded back in the day and there was no EF to ask for advice when it happened... Yikes.


Cleaning appartment when moving

Cleaning appartment when moving
When I left my last appartment in 2004, it cost me the princely sum of CHF 2,500 for the cleaning bill. Yes, Two-thousand five-hundred francs!

This was after my gf and I had spent 8 hours cleaning it. It looked sparkly and new when we had finished. My landlady then took it upon herself to clean it for a further 35 hours after we left - yes a whole week's work! I am not sure quite what she did, but the taps did seem to be gold plated by the time she finished. We got a nice bill with for her hourly rate. I particularly remember being charged 2/33 of the floor costs as each wood panel has a 33 year life span. We also got billed to replace the glass teethbrush holder which we broke the week before. Fair enough (though I have a feeling it was replaced with the Villeroy & Bosch version).

Anyway, with a typical British flourish, I grumbled to myself (not to the owner) and then handed over the cash.

Clearly I was ripped off then and I don't want to have a repetition when I next move out. At the time, I was unaware of the collective wisdom of EF.

So the questions I have are:

What is the best way to handle moving out? Is it best to get one of those companies that charge you a flat rate of CHF 1,000 to clean your appt and you dont get charged any more?

Is it best to involve the MV? I recall you can bring one of them in at the same time as the landlord is there and they will make sure you are being billed correctly. We never had an inventory check to start with in the new place as far as I can remember. We just took it on from an ex-colleague, after the bathroom was redecorated. I know, not covering myself in glory here...

Can I claim on any of the costs on any of the insurances? I read something to this effect on another thread, but think I misinterpreted it. I would be very (pleasantly) suprised if you could.

All in all, we live in fear of ever moving again after the last episode!
Indeed I made you nostalgic. Amazing stories on here. Most people seem to do the cleaning on their own as I read here. Tough to get insurance on cleaning fees.
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Old 24.11.2011, 01:44
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Re: Exorbitant cleaning bill

it's possible to clean a flat on your own and get it through inspection but:

- you need to know what needs to be done
- it takes time
- it isn't much fun

as a rough guide, to clean properly, you would need at a minimum approx:

- 10 hours for the kitchen
- 5 hours for the bathroom
- 1/2 hour per single window with blinds
- 1 hour per room

in reality, 24-36 hours for a 100sqm flat is not so unusual.

there are a few simple checks you can make. if you fail any of these, then you've failed the basic elements and fail to grasp how anal the final inspection will be:

- there should be no dirt anywhere. run a kitchen towel across the tops of doors, door frames and any other bit of wall or ledge. if there is any dirt picked up on this, then you've failed.
- repeat test for every blade of window shutters.
- look at windows. if they are not perfectly clear and without streaks, you've failed.
- touch your extractor fan, you should feel no grease. run paper across it, again no grease. take out filter and check inside. again, there should be no grease.
- look at the inside of the oven. is there any sign that the oven has been used? if so, you've failed.
- did you dismantle the inside of your oven to clean it? if not, you've probably failed.
- are there any calcium deposits anywhere (including tap filters, which you should have dismantled to clean) if so, FAIL.
- is the dishwasher drain spotlessly clean? if not, fail.
- if you run your hands across every cupboard and shelf surface, does it feel smooth and clean? if not, fail.
- did you clean out and sweep/hoover the celler and attic? if not, fail.

these are just some basic points to illustrate how particular the inspection can be. there are actually many more points to check.
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Re: Exorbitant cleaning bill

Funny all these hours required for an apartment, but when we stay in a hotel room in Switzerland the cleaning staff is in and out in 20 min.
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Re: Exorbitant cleaning bill

the first place we rented here we cleaned ourselves when we left, 2 of us, and it took us nearly a month, that was all day sat / sun, some evenings for me and almost all day everyday for my wife.

It was signed off straight away, I don't see how you can get a place swiss clean while still living in it, we would do a room then in effect seal it.

fortunately the new place was just round the corner and we had a months overlap.

When we left the new place we got zuriclean in with there guarantee, much less hassle
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Funny all these hours required for an apartment, but when we stay in a hotel room in Switzerland the cleaning staff is in and out in 20 min.
the hotel room would fail inspection.
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