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Working in Geneva and living in Yverdon-les-bains/Yvonand

Hello all,
I'm looking at options of living either in Yverdons-les-bains or around Yvonand, but will be working in Geneva. I'll be leaving the car at the train station P+Rail, and take the train to Geneva airport where I work. Is this doable. Is there someone out there who does the same? I've been talking to my social circle and everyone around me is quite negative and says it's not worth it, insisting that the créche/daycare centres aren't that good but are still expensive (in Geneva the waiting lists are extremely long and damn expensive), and I will have to make sure I pick the little one by 18:00hrs, adding more stress of leaving the office early. How is it during the winter? Too foggy, snows alot? What social activities can one engage in?

I would really appreciate your help.

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Re: Working in Geneva and living in Yverdon-les-bains/Yvonand

I don't think it is worth it long term, but if you have a compelling reason to live in Yverdon but work in Geneva (crappy Geneva housing market being a very compelling reason imo) it can be done short term. I had a friend who did it for several years but finally got too tired and looked for something closer to Yverdon.

The ICN going to Yverdon is less crowded than the trains going to Lausanne, but the trains at 1705 and 1805 are usually standing room only in Geneva so be glad you can get on the Geneva Airport stop. Your morning train could be quite crowded though and makes for long days.
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Re: Working in Geneva and living in Yverdon-les-bains/Yvonand

The train either takes 1 hour or 1h21, depending on time. So it is very doable if you can work on the train and not dependent on child care. Otherwise I'd say it is just too far. The tiny road from Yvonand is very busy at peak times. If you can walk to Yverdon station is wouldn't be too bad.
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Hello all,
I'm looking at options of living either in Yverdons-les-bains or around Yvonand, but will be working in Geneva. I'll be leaving the car at the train station P+Rail, and take the train to Geneva airport where I work. Is this doable. Is there someone out there who does the same? I've been talking to my social circle and everyone around me is quite negative and says it's not worth it, insisting that the créche/daycare centres aren't that good but are still expensive (in Geneva the waiting lists are extremely long and damn expensive), and I will have to make sure I pick the little one by 18:00hrs, adding more stress of leaving the office early. How is it during the winter? Too foggy, snows alot? What social activities can one engage in?

I would really appreciate your help.

Thanks.
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Although in general I'm against hour long commutes, this one is certainly doable if (and that's a big if) you can work out your work schedule with train schedule with the creche schedule. The issue is that you only have 1 direct train an hour and the more things that you need to schedule precisely the more stress you'll be under to not be late.

Have you checked the train schedule yet? Will the creche wait for you if you only arrive at 18:10/18:15?

And yes, you'll be crowed from Geneva to Morges.
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Old 21.02.2012, 19:01
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Been doing this for 2 years than i quit cause it's just not possible....screw any money or benefits when you can't have a life...just my 2 cents
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Re: Working in Geneva and living in Yverdon-les-bains/Yvonand

I take that train a lot. It is a good line and getting on at Yverdon and returning from the airport is good for getting a seat.
What annoys me is that there is usually only 1 train an hour about 10 past and then you have to wait a whole hour till the next one. It takes about 55 mins but if you miss it and then have to pick your child up it will give you a lot of stress.
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I take that train a lot. It is a good line and getting on at Yverdon and returning from the airport is good for getting a seat.
What annoys me is that there is usually only 1 train an hour about 10 past and then you have to wait a whole hour till the next one. It takes about 55 mins but if you miss it and then have to pick your child up it will give you a lot of stress.
That's exactly how I feel too. Missing the direct train will cause lots of hassle. And you get in to Y-l-B at 10 past so the OP will have to find a creche open 'til 18:30.
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Re: Working in Geneva and living in Yverdon-les-bains/Yvonand

Generally I am on that train, although I start at a closer point to Geneva, so there are a lot of commuters from around Yverdon from what I understand.

That being said though, with a child in daycare I'm afraid it will be impossible. Creche hours are getting better but if you are working 8-9 hours full time, adding in the commute time, I don't think any creche can accomodate those hours. And to always be stressed to drop and pick up your child will not do either of you any good.

Furthermore, there will always be something that comes up, ie. a project that keeps you in the office a bit longer that usual, meaning you miss your train, and the next one is a long way off.

Train delays and cancellations, they are very frequent on the Lausanne-Geneva line, and more often than the CFF/SBB would like to admit.

And most importantly, there is often something that comes up urgently with your child at the creche, ie. high fever and they request you come pick him/her up, very very difficult to do when you are more than a hour away.
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Re: Working in Geneva and living in Yverdon-les-bains/Yvonand

Ok, I'm convinced! Back to my "no commutes more than 35 mins" mentality! What about the OP? Newbeginnings, have you though more about it? What about another village?
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screw any money or benefits when you can't have a life...just my 2 cents
This...

I couldn't agree more. People really need to understand they have no control over their lives anymore and will run around like crazy. It looks good on paper but reality shows things are never smoothly. This solutions is not dealing well with changes from the standard.
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Re: Working in Geneva and living in Yverdon-les-bains/Yvonand

Thank you to everyone for providing your perspectives. Of course one of the factors pushing my move is also accommodation. I would not be able to afford to buy a house, with a garden and tranquillity in Geneva, leave alone in Lausanne. I’ve looked at villages like Lucen, Moudon, Froideville, Echallens, but it would mean me taking my car into Lausanne-centre, before catching a train to Geneva, which frankly is very hectic.

In terms of child care, I might just need to engage someone to take care of the baby at home. When time comes for the baby to go to school, I’ll cross that bridge at that time, maybe having someone pick her up after school and taking care of her till I come home.

I really don’t have a problem with the commuting time. I would just need to change my mentality on waking up times J, which frankly with a baby, it comes naturally.

In life there are pros and cons to every decision we make. The important thing is accepting to live with cons to whichever decision you have made. I must admit that it’s a challenging decision to make, but still not made yet.

I sincerely appreciate your insights.
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Re: Working in Geneva and living in Yverdon-les-bains/Yvonand

Hi !
I also commute everyday from Estavayer to Geneva city - where I work. I also leave my car in Yverdon - so we could go together some mornings or evenings if you want.
I chose the commute because I bought a house here - had been looking for ages in Morges/Nyon where I rented for a ton of money - and it was simply too expensive. I love the area here and am looking to make friends as I came here only 6 months ago.
My job is very demanding - I usually arrive at 8 and leave at 6 or 7 in the evening.
Till now I'm ok with my choice - having lived in Nyon and Morges I know that it's not nirvana either!
Yverdon seems like a quaint place to be - and prices are good.
Also, I spent a part of last sunday in the Asian store at rue Plaine - and people were very nice.
I might add I speak fluent French and hear that people prefer to come learn French in Yverdon as elsewhere people tend to switch to English when they try to speak French..
Buuuut :........ would you all from the area here want to come to my place for a potluck dinner? would be soooo awesome!
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The commute is fine if you do not have young children/childcare to come back to. And clever you for realising that you'd get an awful lot more for your money away from the Geneva-Montreux riviera. Hope you two hook up for a good natter soon.
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Re: Working in Geneva and living in Yverdon-les-bains/Yvonand

I think weather-wise it can be a bit miserable in Y-l-B as it can be covered by cloud/fog, something I observed once and has been confirmed by people I know working there. But it's also supposed to be a nice place to live!
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Hi !
I also commute everyday from Estavayer to Geneva city - where I work. I also leave my car in Yverdon - so we could go together some mornings or evenings if you want.
I chose the commute because I bought a house here - had been looking for ages in Morges/Nyon where I rented for a ton of money - and it was simply too expensive. I love the area here and am looking to make friends as I came here only 6 months ago.
My job is very demanding - I usually arrive at 8 and leave at 6 or 7 in the evening.
Till now I'm ok with my choice - having lived in Nyon and Morges I know that it's not nirvana either!
Yverdon seems like a quaint place to be - and prices are good.
Also, I spent a part of last sunday in the Asian store at rue Plaine - and people were very nice.
I might add I speak fluent French and hear that people prefer to come learn French in Yverdon as elsewhere people tend to switch to English when they try to speak French..
Buuuut :........ would you all from the area here want to come to my place for a potluck dinner? would be soooo awesome!
Isa
Hi Isa...it's good to know there is someone out there living in YIB and working in Geneva. Will send you a personal message to get more information from you....thank you.
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Re: Working in Geneva and living in Yverdon-les-bains/Yvonand

Hi-

It's do-able but you need a flexible employer and a flexible other half.

I hired a live-out nanny (she comes to me, and I don't have to schlep my toddler off to a creche) and I did the commute driving from YlB to Geneva. Trick is to have an employer who accepts flexible hours - I left YlB at 8am to get into Geneva (airport side) by 9am. Commute back is worst between 5-7pm of course, but hubby would leave work "early" and relieve nanny so that I could make it back home without a heart-attack. (PS Hubby works in Le Locle (NE) so he has also a one hour commute driving - he car-pools with a colleague and leaves the house at 7am).

My post is in past tense because unfortunately I lost my job a few months ago, but this was our routine for over one year.

Good luck, and PM me if you'd like to meet an anglo in YlB.
Cheers
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