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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Wow, Ms Collie...you may become a ramps millionaire, at $15/lb.!
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Old 18.04.2021, 15:14
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Wow, Ms Collie...you may become a ramps millionaire, at $15/lb.!
One of the few advantages of gardening in dark damp Ausserschwyz.

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Old 19.04.2021, 19:09
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

I went back and read more about growing ramps...it takes 5 to 7 years if starting from seed, 2-3 if using bulbs. Sounds like you need to replicate the floor of the forest in a large shallow, but high hochbeete (to protect from various critters).
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Old 19.04.2021, 22:18
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I went back and read more about growing ramps...it takes 5 to 7 years if starting from seed, 2-3 if using bulbs. Sounds like you need to replicate the floor of the forest in a large shallow, but high hochbeete (to protect from various critters).
the quickest way would be to dig out whole clumps and plant immediately. Where I go and forage, no-one would ever notice, there is so much of it and so isolated.

Most veg, salads and strawberries, etc grown commercially, are grown in fields where foxes and other mammals have access.
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Yes, it has become a problem is some areas. Back in the early 70s, I used to forage in Richmond Park and Wimbledon Common - and I was the only one. Then came gangs or commercial pickers for top local restaurants- and the parks were pillaged. Now strictly regulated, and NO foraging for mushrooms allowed.
When I was a student I remember the sight of students on their hands and knees foraging for mushrooms. They were magic ;-)
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Old 20.04.2021, 17:29
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Most veg, salads and strawberries, etc grown commercially, are grown in fields where foxes and other mammals have access.
Ah, but the difference is that I know what comes out of poor Heffalump's dodgy insides. Hence my squeamishness towards eating anything within 'elimination distance' of the Muttley Crew.

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Ennui, your link pointed out that Ramps need acidic soil. Interesting - the few articles that I've read so far suggested neutral soil PH. But maybe that's part of my problem in getting them to grow in pots - I have them in herb soil, which is more or less neutral.

It would make sense, though, that they would need acidic soil, as they are a forest crop.

So off to do an experiment with clumps potted in acidic soil. Let's see what happens...
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Old 22.04.2021, 09:16
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

And on the subject of acidic soil...

Seems like the PH in one of my blueberry patches is starting to get too high. I've been doing the usual - using a Moorbeet fertiliser, adding pine needle mulch, adding new acidic soil where I can (the bushes are mature, so I don't want to disturb them too much) etc. But it looks like I need to take further steps.

Various serious garden advice sites (RHS, university extension services) recommend adding elemental sulphur... which I cannot find in Switzerland, even at the Landi.

Anyone know where I can find elemental sulphur? Or any other ideas for re-acidifying soil?

Many thanks.
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And on the subject of acidic soil...

Seems like the PH in one of my blueberry patches is starting to get too high. I've been doing the usual - using a Moorbeet fertiliser, adding pine needle mulch, adding new acidic soil where I can (the bushes are mature, so I don't want to disturb them too much) etc. But it looks like I need to take further steps.

Various serious garden advice sites (RHS, university extension services) recommend adding elemental sulphur... which I cannot find in Switzerland, even at the Landi.

Anyone know where I can find elemental sulphur? Or any other ideas for re-acidifying soil?

Many thanks.
Found this

https://www.bioaktuell.ch/pflanzenba...delbeeren.html

Schwefellinsen ( Elementarschwefel in Linsenform) can be found here https://agrarshop.ch/Schwefellinsen-25kg/AGS10279

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Old 22.04.2021, 11:38
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Thanks, Sigh.

I see there is a b2b gardening firm not too far from me listed as selling ÷kohum product. I'll see if he carries their 'Schwefel' or can source some for a non-commercial client.

Which reminds me - there is a farm across the road from that gardening firm that grows fantastic blueberries. I might pop by and see if the farmer is willing to chat...

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And thanks for the Agrarshop link! That's the easiest solution, and not a bad price... and 25kg will probably last me a lifetime.

OK, one might argue that dropping another CHF 41 into the already relatively high cost of producing my blueberry jam (thanks to my secret ingredient) rather than buying CHF 2 supermarket jam is a tad foolish. But there are more foolish hobbies one could indulge in...

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Old 28.04.2021, 11:22
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

A few years ago somebody on EF (Tasebo I believe) sent me some Peony Tenuifloria tubers. I planted them in thre places and I am very happy to report that two of them grew successfully and are now producing flowers each spring.
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And on the subject of acidic soil...

Seems like the PH in one of my blueberry patches is starting to get too high. I've been doing the usual - using a Moorbeet fertiliser, adding pine needle mulch, adding new acidic soil where I can (the bushes are mature, so I don't want to disturb them too much) etc. But it looks like I need to take further steps.

Various serious garden advice sites (RHS, university extension services) recommend adding elemental sulphur... which I cannot find in Switzerland, even at the Landi.

Anyone know where I can find elemental sulphur? Or any other ideas for re-acidifying soil?

Many thanks.

Cow manure. But I wouldn't be ready for that, your neighbors probably either. But maybe ask a local cow farm for a bit of dry poop? Oh I just saw it's for blueberries, then it's safer to not use animal excrements. Did you find your sulphur and does it work? Makes me think of Yellowstone.
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Man, it's a late spring! The flieder are blooming this week, and the wisteria is loaded and about to open.
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A few years ago somebody on EF (Tasebo I believe) sent me some Peony Tenuifloria tubers. I planted them in thre places and I am very happy to report that two of them grew successfully and are now producing flowers each spring.
That was me, so wonderful to see how the tubers have found a spot they clearly thrive in Thanks for the progress report
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Cow manure. But I wouldn't be ready for that, your neighbors probably either. But maybe ask a local cow farm for a bit of dry poop? Oh I just saw it's for blueberries, then it's safer to not use animal excrements. Did you find your sulphur and does it work? Makes me think of Yellowstone.
I use cow manure on a few garden beds where the Muttley Crew cannot go, but I have to be careful because it's the ne plus ultra of canine delicacies, but does not agree with Heffalump's delicate constitution. What comes out is a whole lot worse than what went in. And when the monsters aren't trying to eat cow manure they are rolling in it. Cue baths, high drama, and a lot of 'woe is me' all around.

Unfortunately cow manure won't lower the blueberry soil PH. However, I was able to order elemental sulphur through the Agrarshop, the link Sigh provided up thread. Delivery is free, fast, and you can pay by Rechnung!

So now we keep our fingers crossed that it does the trick to lower the soil PH.

Interestingly, I tested a fresh, unopened sack of Moorbeeterde, the soil specifically for acidic plants, and found the PH was 6 - still a bit too high for blueberries. (They like 4.5-5.5) Who'd a thumk it. I guess I'll find a use for all of that 25kg sack of elemental sulphur.
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Cow manure. But I wouldn't be ready for that, your neighbors probably either. But maybe ask a local cow farm for a bit of dry poop? Oh I just saw it's for blueberries, then it's safer to not use animal excrements. Did you find your sulphur and does it work? Makes me think of Yellowstone.
cow manure is very intense and should best be allowed to lie for a year at least before being applied.

failing that, bury it in a way that it doesn't have any immediate contact to any roots, but not too far from the plants. Then leave it to the worms and things to slowly mix it with the normal soil.
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We have the pleasure of having one of our neighbour's horses on our meadow, on and off from Spring to late autumn, so we get plenty of horse manure to use as layers and accelerators on all our compost bins. Great news it is that it is not half as smelly as cow manure- almost pleasant in fact. And great for the garden and roses.
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