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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Thanks maria,
I stripped off all the leaves gave the plants a good head bath and now they seem to be doing pretty ok. When the weather is good i shall place them out so tht any predator bugs might get a quick bite at those bugs.
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So lovely and warm- so spent the day in the garden tidying and weeding (1 stitch saves 9, but 1 weed in time saves 10000s)- and took a big risk- and pruned most of the roses. Crocuses and snowdrops out- and everything is starting to stir. Daughter's dachshund was with me, and when I lifted a plantpot, found a mouse and killed in instantly with one bite! He's lived in flats all his life, but at 13 his killer instincts are coming back!

Birds goind crazy, bumblebees out and even a few peacock butterflies

Anyone in Neuchâtel area wants some strawberry plants? (free, just collect)

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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Calling all Brombeeren experts!

I have let my Brombeeren get a bit untidy. Well, very untidy, actually. In previous years they were producing so much fruit that I just didn't have the heart to cut productive canes back. But now I have a jungle to contend with.

Everything I read says to cut back all but 2-3 'strong' canes. But how do I know which canes to cut? The strongest canes are the oldest - but I've also read that one should cut old canes out too.

Haeberli has great illustrations and instructions, but they assume one is starting with a few tidy plants. With my gnarled jungle I just don't know where to start.

Should I just start cutting back randomly, keeping my (greenish) thumbs pressed, and hope for the best?

Any experts willing to write up a 'Neglected Brombeeren Pruning For Dummies' post?

Many thanks.

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Daughter's dachshund was with me, and when I lifted a plantpot, found a mouse and killed in instantly with one bite! He's lived in flats all his life, but at 13 his killer instincts are coming back!
Your post made me smile, Odile.

Puddle the PflegePoodle has recently discovered the self-propelled 'toys' populating our garden. He hasn't caught any, and I doubt would know what to do with one if he did, but he is obsessed with mouse hunting - which means digging. The mouse-sized craters popping up in my spring lawn are now poodle-sized tunnels.
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

The winter jasmines were the first to pop out in my balcony, followed by yellow, purple and tricolor crocuses, then winter aconites (tardy!), yellow daffodils, blue-white hyacinths (rather shy and slow), old muscaris (former forced bulbs) and - lo and behold! - a tiny Pushkinia libanotica, which never bloomed for me for two years.

In the meantime, the dog tries to eat the organic fertilizer my other half applied to the base of plants. The dog thinks it smells nice and fishy.
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Calling all Brombeeren experts!



I have let my Brombeeren get a bit untidy. Well, very untidy, actually. In previous years they were producing so much fruit that I just didn't have the heart to cut productive canes back. But now I have a jungle to contend with.



Everything I read says to cut back all but 2-3 'strong' canes. But how do I know which canes to cut? The strongest canes are the oldest - but I've also read that one should cut old canes out too.



Haeberli has great illustrations and instructions, but they assume one is starting with a few tidy plants. With my gnarled jungle I just don't know where to start.



Should I just start cutting back randomly, keeping my (greenish) thumbs pressed, and hope for the best?



Any experts willing to write up a 'Neglected Brombeeren Pruning For Dummies' post?



Many thanks.







Your post made me smile, Odile.



Puddle the PflegePoodle has recently discovered the self-propelled 'toys' populating our garden. He hasn't caught any, and I doubt would know what to do with one if he did, but he is obsessed with mouse hunting - which means digging. The mouse-sized craters popping up in my spring lawn are now poodle-sized tunnels.

We have oodles and oodles of blackberries and no matter what and how much we cut back they just keep growing - and producing more fruit. They are EVIL plants, so in my experience just cut back what you want...it'll keep growing.
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

I'm looking for opinions about when to plant perennials. Normally, I would wait until end of April or early May. I've got mixed opinions from the folks at garden centers, some saying that the risk of frost is gone in the next couple of weeks due to the unusually warm winter, others saying wait until the end of April. Anyone here have experience with this? Would love to hear peoples ideas.
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Old 10.03.2014, 08:29
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Calling all Brombeeren experts!

I have let my Brombeeren get a bit untidy. Well, very untidy, actually. In previous years they were producing so much fruit that I just didn't have the heart to cut productive canes back. But now I have a jungle to contend with.

Everything I read says to cut back all but 2-3 'strong' canes. But how do I know which canes to cut? The strongest canes are the oldest - but I've also read that one should cut old canes out too.

Haeberli has great illustrations and instructions, but they assume one is starting with a few tidy plants. With my gnarled jungle I just don't know where to start.

Should I just start cutting back randomly, keeping my (greenish) thumbs pressed, and hope for the best?

Any experts willing to write up a 'Neglected Brombeeren Pruning For Dummies' post?

Many thanks.

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I am not a blackberry expert but there is a field of blackberries grown for commercial purposes right next door to our house and when I was working in the garden yesterday the owner ( whose tow daughters just happen to come to me for English lessons) happened to come along so I asked him.

His advice was to cut out all the old canes plus some of the new growth and leave just two or three of the more vigorous newer canes which didn't fruit last season. This way you should get a plentiful supply of good quality fruit this year.

Having said that he did say that blackberries are incredibly hardy and vigorous and that you can't really do them much damage. Even if you cut them all right back to almost nothing they would still grow back but wouldn't fruit this year.
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Hello everybody,

Yesterday, I planted my herbs and flowers and now hoping that things will work out as the season is quite confusing, nevertheless they are in the sunny inter garden now, so no frost for them.

I have request for help ( crying out loud ). Can anybody tell me the name of the pink flowers they put in the balconies in Savoy Zurich. Here is a picture:


any ideas?
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Yesterday, I planted my herbs and flowers and now hoping that things will work out as the season is quite confusing, nevertheless they are in the sunny inter garden now, so no frost for them.

I have request for help ( crying out loud ). Can anybody tell me the name of the pink flowers they put in the balconies in Savoy Zurich. Here is a picture:


any ideas?
I can't see clearly from the photo but they look like trailing ( ivy leafed) geranium so me.
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Sorry I couldn't find a better/closer picture on the net.

But you might be right, I guess they are Ivy-leaved geraniums.

Thank you so much!
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

I'm no expert either, just got a garden So excited!!!
I found blackberries yesterday and started to prune, and i really pruned it back as most of the canes were dead. Don't know if i did the right thing, but i cut them to the ground.. then i cut off last years fruiting branches which were also dead and cut back some of the canes to about a metre and settled them back into the trellis on the wall. Hope thats right looks tidy and green anyway! Fingers crossed!

Also cut raspberry canes right back down to the ground.. please someone tell me that was right! I read it online but the patch just looks so empty i am worried!

Then there's the weeds.. I have loads of flowerbeds with spring flowers and other plants that i haven't got a clue about popping up, but they are surrounded by overgrown grass and weeds.. any quick tricks or is it a case of getting down on my hands and knees and just digging each one out? They are also all over the raspberry patch. Do i just leave them? They aren't high, its mostly dandelion weeds and overgrown grass and low lying stuff. I'm just afraid of disturbing roots..

Last thing is the lawn. Can anyone recommend a good lawn feed? Again its a weed paradise and looking sparse in places..
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Sorry I couldn't find a better/closer picture on the net.

But you might be right, I guess they are Ivy-leaved geraniums.

Thank you so much!
If pink is your thing...
http://www.baldur-garten.ch/produkt/...il/detail.html

young plants seem a more affordable option too:
http://www.baldur-garten.ch/unterkat...be&option=rosa
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Ladylou,

The one piece of advice I wish I'd paid attention to when moving into each new home is to wait one season before making radical changes in the garden. Wait until you see what comes up, wait until you understand what kind sun and shade you have throughout the season, wait until you understand what pests you'll likely need to deal with, wait until you understand drainage and water issues, wait until you understand your microclimate better. Armed with that info, then go whole hog with your garden design next season.

But I've always been too eager to get out there and get going - so I make a lot of mistakes.

Now, I don't mind the mistakes, as I learn something from them and I enjoy the work. But if it would bother you to have to re-do all last year's hard work, then maybe go slow this first year.

The best way to learn about what does or does not grow well in your area is to talk to neighbors. Walk the neighborhood, see what others have done. Nothing a gardener loves more than talking plants - so don't be afraid to ask neighbors for advice.


I've heard conflicting advice about raspberries. I cut them all down to about 20cm last year, and didn't have much of a harvest, just a lot of vegetative canes. So this year I'm experimenting. A portion left unpruned, a portion pruned down low to the ground, a portion at 20cm. We'll see what happens.


As for the weeds... honestly, there's no substitute for pulling individual weeds out by hand - especially if you don't know what else is in the bed. I use one of those inverted V weed pullers, does the trick easily. If getting down on hands and knees is difficult, you can get the same weed puller with a long handle. If you know that the entire bed is weeds only, no plants worth keeping, you could hoe the bed - but I find that hoeing doesn't always destroy roots - and then later in the year I'm down on hands and knees again, pulling out by the roots.

(I won't use chemicals because of a. the mutts, and b. we are in a green zone.)


I can't help with the lawn I'm afraid. Between the wet climate and the thundering herd of mutts I'm always fighting the lawn battle. I just de-thatch and re-seed every year.

I've finally come around to the Swiss way of thinking about lawns: Any green plant that is hardy enough to make it's way into my lawn is allowed to stay there*. Crabgrass, creeping charlie, millet - I just mow it all as if it were grass.

Enjoy your garden!




* Except dandelions. Despite a decade and an half here, I'm still far too American to stomach a détente with my ancestral enemy. I've learned to eat dandelions, but I still can't have them in my lawn.
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Thanks a mill Meloncollie! Sound advice there We have only been here half a year now, so i only watched a winter garden dying off.. However i got in and did a bit this morning on the beds and i dug up some onions this morning!! D'oh! So hastily buried them back and will wait and see I have made some pots with flowers and things there this afternoon instead
I see some new growth out there today on the raspberries funny enough, so just going to hope for the best. I like the learning process too!

Thanks, ok il have to go get me one of those tools for the weeds, i think i will do it by hand considering my onion mistake!
What do you mean by de-thatch? I'm really new to this!
Also when do you guys think its a good time to cut the grass? It hasn't been done since before winter and i was afraid of more frost.. but the weather is so nice! And for edges and grass around borders etc. Is there any other way other than buying an expensive strimmer, or is a strimmer a good investment?
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The winter jasmines were the first to pop out in my balcony, followed by yellow, purple and tricolor crocuses, then winter aconites (tardy!), yellow daffodils, blue-white hyacinths (rather shy and slow), old muscaris (former forced bulbs) and - lo and behold! - a tiny Pushkinia libanotica, which never bloomed for me for two years.

In the meantime, the dog tries to eat the organic fertilizer my other half applied to the base of plants. The dog thinks it smells nice and fishy.
beautiful pictures ….really pretty..what kind of organic fertilizer?
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This is what the neighbouring blackberries look like.
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The advice to watch a garden for a year before doing anything major is definitely sound and well heeded. You can always add some colour to beds by planting some annuals the first year, and as the season progresses, it will become clearer which foliage is of weedy variety as opposed to something beautiful developing. After a while if you find beds that are just perennial weed it could be useful to really reculture the soil by removing as many weeds as possible before adding a decent amount of good quality soil and organic fertilizer, possibly some sand for drainage depending on the situation and what one has in mind to plant.

One weed that is easily recognisable (and probably lurking and spreading happily near berry plants) is stinging nettle. I always try to get as much as possible early in the season when the plants are small, and minimally "stinging", then keep watch for new patches. When the soil is moderately moist it is easier to extract the tangling root systems that encourage the spread.

My mother always extracted dandelions from the lawn making sure to get the entire tap root - one of my most lasting visual memories of her is on her knees crawling around the garden on warm summer evenings with a laundry basket full of "the buggers" - as she called them. I did have a neighbour in the UK who insisted I didn't need to dig them out but only pinch any flowers to prevent seed spread. As we have usually not lived anywhere longer than 2 years over the last 2+ decades I was never able to draw any conclusions as to the effectivity of that method Melloncollie, as you mention not being able to accept them in your lawn, do you have a preferred method?

The house we have bought in CH was previously owned by a family that seems to have run to Landi every spring, bought a load of plants and made everything look picture perfect, then ignored them as the season drew on. I am trying to be the horticultural equivalent of a dog rescue - I have found abandoned clematis, apple trees, bougainvillea - all in VERY large decorative pots. I am hoping that even after a few years of neglect I can nurture them back to what they want to be.

Which brings me to why I even looked at the gardening thread this morning....does anyone have any experience/knowledge of how best to coax a Bougainvillea into bloom. I did a forum search but that turned up one EF member using that for a name. I have had it inside the basement the last two winters, taking it out once the weather is more or less "winter spring" (Scandinavian 5th season vårvinter). Last summer it didn't ever produce any flowers, although it had foliage. A bit of research has indicated good doses of hibiscus food and cutting back at the beginning of the growing season. But how far should I cut back? Any suggestions appreciated - and if it ever flowers I'll document with a photo.

Seasonal oddities - yesterday I saw jonquils blooming side-by-side something dark blue (not an unusual colour combo this time of year) but on closer inspection the dark blue revealed some random cornflowers, the blue midsummer type.
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Here is a video for pruning raspberries:

http://youtu.be/pOzo4s9Z9jE

There are actually 2 types of raspberries, Summer and Autumn fruiting. With autum fruiting, you cut everything down to the ground. But with Summer Raspberries, you do NOT. If you have already cut everything to the ground- they will re-grow and hopefully will give a late crop- or you might have to wait for next year. Good luck

I will be pruning them as in the video in the next few days, as juicy buds are appearing on the canes. I shall also dig up canes which are spreading too far and into the veg patch, and plant a new row with them, and cut by half to allow plants to gain strength. They will only give a small crop this year, but that's ok. I've decided to give up on veg growing and plant raspberries and straberries only- much easier and it will keep us going with fruit for months and then freeze on trays and bag up to keep us going for winter.

I have spare strawberry plants is someone in the area wants some- need to be transplanting soon.
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