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I am almost unsure if I should post anything on this thread based upon my absolute lack of knowledge, in consideration of gardening! However, I do have a garden and would like to learn, so here goes...

I recently bought plants, which I believed to be agapanthus, and potted them in a large clay pot. They are starting to flower nicely, though the expected globe of flowers is not appearing. (not agapanthas??) However, the leaves are starting to have large erosions and it appears something is eating my plant!

So, while at COOP I looked at the various products meant to protect plants through incesticides. Yet, as I read the desciptions, I truly wondered if I wanted to use these products.

I would appreciate some help...thanks in advance.
They look more like what my mother called chincherinchee ( not sure about spelling) to me rather than agapanthus.

I think smoky is probably right about slugs or snails being the culprit.

Edit: found a link for the chincherinchee.

http://gardenclinic.com.au/plant_of_...m_thyrsoides_/
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Old 07.06.2014, 13:18
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Or you can search them out in the early morning/evenings and deport them to a nearby forest. (The ecological method)
You really shouldn't be putting anything in the forest from your own garden.

In another thread, you were condoning the breeding of Cydalima perspectalis which is not native to Switzerland and is destroying native box plants.

You cannot confirm that the slugs and snails in your garden are native and might also have hitched a lift from Asia or elsewhere in a pot plant or by some other route.

Why you think this is an ecological method is beyond me. It's the most irresponsible and unecological thing to do.

Maybe you just need to understand the word ecological a bit better?
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Old 07.06.2014, 13:32
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Two non-lethal, non-chemical methods of slug control:

(1) Wrap copper strip around the pot about two-thirds of the way up. This sets up an unpleasant electrical charge when the slug crawls over it and discourages them from going further.

(2) Stand the pot on a patch of clean, crushed egg shells. Slugs hate the sharp edges and keep away.

If you're not bothered by the idea of slaughtering slugs, you can also try sprinkling a bit of salt on them, but this involves a lot of work and the results are pretty gross. Back home, I used to chuck em in my compost bin where they could do some good.
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Ok you gardeners, would appreciate some feedback ..

We are at the very beginning of creating our garden. We have the help of an imaginative and thoughtful landscaper. At one point we are seeking some immediate cover and privacy and he has suggested planting 7 to 8 large bushes (between 1.5 and 2m in height). So far so good, we like this idea. Here are his suggestions for these specimins ..

1X Acer campstre (érable chmpêtre - common field maple)
1X Cornus sanguinea (cornouiller sanguin - common dogwood)
2X Ligustrum vulgare (Troène commun - privet)
2X Viburnum opulus (Viorne obier - viburnum)
1X Sambucus nigra (sureau noir - black elderberry)
1X Corylus avellana (noisetier - hazlenut)

My thoughts are that I am not keen on dogwood or privet. I would also like a maple that comes into leaf with red leaves immediately and not just autumn colour. I am also wondering about a cherry tree of some sort.

They have to be capable of enjoying full sun. They will be planted on a tendancy to dryness slope.

Any thoughts?
In addition to colour, what about shrubs/bushes/trees that would add scent...at least at certain times of year. Nothing more pleasant than walking past a honeysuckle or mock orange on an early summer evening or sitting in the garden with the scent wafting onto the patio. I am also very partial to lilac hedges, so many nice varieties, drawback being one is left with foliage for large part of year. Once the bushes/trees (not necessarily lilacs, but other types) are established there is the option to train a robust clematis or honeysuckle to grow up them. I don't know what the shrub was (lovely dark red leaves), but the contrast of the foliage with blossoms of clematis montana intertwined was stunning.

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Old 07.06.2014, 18:05
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In addition to colour, what about shrubs/bushes/trees that would add scent...at least at certain times of year. Nothing more pleasant than walking past a honeysuckle or mock orange on an early summer evening or sitting in the garden with the scent wafting onto the patio. I am also very partial to lilac hedges, so many nice varieties, drawback being one is left with foliage for large part of year. Once the bushes/trees are established there is the option to train a robust clematis or honeysuckle to grow up them. I don't know what the shrub was (lovely dark red leaves), but the contrast of the foliage with blossoms of clematis montana intertwined was stunning.
I ran passed a honeysuckle on Friday. I'm definitely getting one now!
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Old 07.06.2014, 18:08
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And honeysuckles comes in many different varieties/colours as well...choices
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Old 07.06.2014, 18:36
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Tilled the local garden again today, tomorrow I'll take the tiller over to the remote garden (near Belli)

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Old 07.06.2014, 18:51
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You cannot confirm that the slugs and snails in your garden are native and might also have hitched a lift from Asia or elsewhere in a pot plant or by some other route.
I can.

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Very beautiful. Is it a peonie or poppy? Never seen one with such leaves. Oh and yes, would just love a small tuber or seed in the autumn. That would be wonderful- and happy to exchange for anything else you fancy.
It is a peony, Paeonia tenuifolia, in Swedish called "Dill peon", no doubt because the foliage resembling dill plant. I didn't dig it up at all last year, but like so many perennials benefits from separating, so am glad to have welcoming gardens
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Old 07.06.2014, 20:47
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

I suggest you to look at the down side of the leaves...Are there some snails perhaps?



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I am almost unsure if I should post anything on this thread based upon my absolute lack of knowledge, in consideration of gardening! However, I do have a garden and would like to learn, so here goes...

I recently bought plants, which I believed to be agapanthus, and potted them in a large clay pot. They are starting to flower nicely, though the expected globe of flowers is not appearing. (not agapanthas??) However, the leaves are starting to have large erosions and it appears something is eating my plant!

So, while at COOP I looked at the various products meant to protect plants through incesticides. Yet, as I read the desciptions, I truly wondered if I wanted to use these products.

I would appreciate some help...thanks in advance.
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You really shouldn't be putting anything in the forest from your own garden.

In another thread, you were condoning the breeding of Cydalima perspectalis which is not native to Switzerland and is destroying native box plants.

You cannot confirm that the slugs and snails in your garden are native and might also have hitched a lift from Asia or elsewhere in a pot plant or by some other route.

Why you think this is an ecological method is beyond me. It's the most irresponsible and unecological thing to do.

Maybe you just need to understand the word ecological a bit better?
Oh, that must have been the thread about someone seeking caterpillars? Sorry. My apologies - I was not "condoning" anything, just saying where to find the things. If it was of such concern people should already have taken action and burnt their infected bushes! Sadly I see this threat is just ignored, so the worms continue multiplying.

About deporting slugs to the forest: That is the method used here in my town by the "green" folk. The local rose grower (major rose gardens) actually employs people to collect the slugs and drive them( in buckets full) up to the local forest. Others just empty their buckets in any nearby meadow.

A few kilometers distance is not going to make much difference to any offending foreign slug/snail. If the local wildlife don`t eat it, and it reproduces, it would have reproduced anyway, no matter in a private garden or a short distance away.
The only foreign slug is the "red" one, I believe? Or am I so wrong, again?

Much more to worry about is the disposal of foreign reptiles like Pythons/poisonous snakes that get dumped in forests when they get too big and dangerous to handle in little apartment aquariums. Same with fish/crab species.
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This is the GOOD snail

He/she eats only dead matter, not your living plants.
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Old 10.06.2014, 11:21
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The only foreign slug is the "red" one, I believe? Or am I so wrong, again?
I'm not sure about the red slugs.

I did read once though that the Romans didn't think much of culinary qualities of the snails of northern latitudes and so imported and farmed their Mediterranean species wherever they went. And of course some snails always escape from the farms and reach the wild. They didn't get far in Switzerland because the winters are too harsh but there is at lest one common species of British snail that we owe to the gastronomic preferences of the Romans. And by virtue of not being eaten they are actually now more common in Britain than in their native lands.
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Much more to worry about is the disposal of foreign reptiles like Pythons/poisonous snakes that get dumped in forests when they get too big and dangerous to handle in little apartment aquariums. Same with fish/crab species.
Thanks Smoky, I've never met ANY snake I like. Will be keeping a closer eye on the path.
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Thanks Smoky, I've never met ANY snake I like. Will be keeping a closer eye on the path.
I do wish that there was more "authoritive control" over snake collectors, or those buying them for pets!

I still have the horrors about a local guy who had a python in his flat - he built a cage covering half his lounge to contain it! It grew and grew and grew ...... and then one day it was gone.

I asked what he`d done with it? "Oh .... aaah....I ummm ..... I gave it to a friend".

It had gotten too vicious/agressive for him to handle, and too big - his girlfriend had threatened to move out if he didn`t get rid of it.

I dunno why ... but I just have a feeling it went "walkies" into the forest?

WHO in their right mind would take over a +-3m vicious python?!

And because there is no permit control for this type of creature - no-one really knows where it went to. Snakes hibernate in winter.
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Everglades probably. That's where most seem to end up.
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WHO in their right mind would take over a +-3m vicious python?!

And because there is no permit control for this type of creature - no-one really knows where it went to. Snakes hibernate in winter.
Smoky..Possible python destinations, depending on who his hum err eh friend was:-
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WHO in their right mind would take over a +-3m vicious python?!
I did, many years ago.

OK, it was only 2.5m, and a boa.

I baby-sat it for three years.

It wasn't at all vicious.

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I did, many years ago.

OK, it was only 2.5m, and a boa.

I baby-sat it for three years.

It wasn't at all vicious.

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..................and then ..... what did you do with it after the 3 years?
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..................and then ..... what did you do with it after the 3 years?
Normally when you baby-sit, you give the thing back to it's owners.
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