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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Calling Odile and the other foragers

I am thinking of making sweet sloe gelee this year.
I am not interested in google for recipes (did that already), but the personal experiences!!

Did any of you make that too, perhaps in combo with another fruit?
Keen to read about your ideas.... sloe gin of course will be made too..... a good year for them here, but sadly not so much for elderberries.... I think it's been to dry and hot for too long .
Hawthorn and apple gelee will be made here also, last years batch went like a flash, ppl liked it😃

Oh i love love love this time of year
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

I use sloes (or wild plums ord blackberries) as a base for a savory sauce.

I make a basic syrup or thick sauce out of the fruit and then can it in a water bath. Quite low sugar, I use it up within a few months so am not too fussed about storage chemistry.

Then when it come time to make a sauce - add apples, onion, sage. Or lemon and thyme and pepper. Or garlic and ginger. Or anything else you fancy.

Wonderful as a game sauce, also good with duck, chicken, pork tenderloin - any 'autumn' meal. Since I have stopped eating meat, I also use it as a condiment to a root veggie dish. A nice addition to a cheese platter as well.

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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Are too early for sloes- plenty around here, but we must wait for a good frost or two before picking- and with 30C in the shade this afternoon- we can wait a while.

Never made sloe jelly- but only sloe gin!

I do have my grandparents' jelly press though- makes great jelly with apples, etc- getting all the juice out but without any cloudyness.

Happy to take anyone sloe picking in 'my' spot- but come late October.
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Today I took 1m off the top of our laurel - now down to a more manageable height!!

8 large bags + 1 green bin + a few loose branches for recycling!!
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Has anyone had any luck growing hepatica in a pot? I have been trying for a couple of years, following advice from google (dappled shade, maintaining moisture, etc.). I've purchased two small but well-rooted plants from a nursery but the most I have seen is a bit of leaf development. No flowers :-(

Would love to hear any advice from successful growers
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Big tree in the neighbours garden dropping these little pears .. Are they actually pears? Something else?

I can't really get a good pic of the tree/leaves because of sun position and it's a huge tree.. I'll ask the neighbour at some point but in case you gardeners know?
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Old 28.08.2016, 16:12
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Cut one in half and show the inside too?
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Old 28.08.2016, 16:25
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

I have a question that might not actually belong here but voila - I have about 30 plants. Usually, anything I plant grows like crazy for decades. Recently, one type of my plants (Spathiphyllum) started to look really unhappy. I added dirt, then repotted, then fertilized a few times. Nothing really helps, it has been like this for a few months, all of them Spathi plants I have. It is weak and dry looking, even when it has water, the pots are certainly big enough. I keep it in a moderate sunlight, not direct, the old building we live in keeps pretty cool, even in the summer heat. There are no parasites, nada. It is a mystery to me, since everything else grows great. All my Spathi plants are bought in Ikea, I wonder if it could be something they do with the plants to look good at the moment they are bought and then they lack, later on? I don't pitch plants, I would like the plants to get healthy again, but it seems unlikely.
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Old 28.08.2016, 16:59
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I have a question that might not actually belong here but voila - I have about 30 plants. Usually, anything I plant grows like crazy for decades. Recently, one type of my plants (Spathiphyllum) started to look really unhappy. I added dirt, then repotted, then fertilized a few times. Nothing really helps, it has been like this for a few months, all of them Spathi plants I have. It is weak and dry looking, even when it has water, the pots are certainly big enough. I keep it in a moderate sunlight, not direct, the old building we live in keeps pretty cool, even in the summer heat. There are no parasites, nada. It is a mystery to me, since everything else grows great. All my Spathi plants are bought in Ikea, I wonder if it could be something they do with the plants to look good at the moment they are bought and then they lack, later on? I don't pitch plants, I would like the plants to get healthy again, but it seems unlikely.
Hmn, a couple of questions:

How long have you had them?
Did you buy them all at the same time?
What, if anything, do you feed them?
Have you changed something else? (copper watering can, water softener or such, ion air cleaner, humidifier, air conditioner)
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Old 28.08.2016, 17:23
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Hmn, a couple of questions:

How long have you had them?
Did you buy them all at the same time?
What, if anything, do you feed them?
Have you changed something else? (copper watering can, water softener or such, ion air cleaner, humidifier, air conditioner)
I bought them different times, but same store. I do feed them past few months, to give them a boost. Nothing changed, takes about a year or longer if they are bigger and then they go sad and limp. They are all in different pots.

Eta - Hmmm. Looks like a pathogen, google result. It must have spread when I put plants in one big plastic bucket to keep water for longer. If this is the case, they suggest PCNB treatment, fungicide? Yikes. Can I just pour some lemon juice all over?

Other plants don't have it, weird.
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Old 28.08.2016, 17:37
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I bought them different times, but same store. I do feed them past few months, to give them a boost. Nothing changed, takes about a year or longer if they are bigger and then they go sad and limp. They are all in different pots.

Eta - Hmmm. Looks like a pathogen, google result. It must have spread when I put plants in one big plastic bucket to keep water for longer. If this is the case, they suggest PCNB treatment, fungicide? Yikes. Can I just pour some lemon juice all over?

Other plants don't have it, weird.
I was thinking pathogen, hence the copper watering can etc questions. It doesn't sound like a particularly agressive pathogen though.

I would try some Gesal Pflanzentonic. It generally helps with the Chlorophyl production enough that the plants are healthy enough to defend for themselves. Usually takes less than 10 days to give a visible result, so do a couple of the plants and keep an eye on them.
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Old 28.08.2016, 17:50
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I was thinking pathogen, hence the copper watering can etc questions. It doesn't sound like a particularly agressive pathogen though.

I would try some Gesal Pflanzentonic. It generally helps with the Chlorophyl production enough that the plants are healthy enough to defend for themselves. Usually takes less than 10 days to give a visible result, so do a couple of the plants and keep an eye on them.
The watering can is aluminum..I water with whatever, mostly.

This tonic?

I think it must be some kind of mold. Coop seems to have some plant fungicides, too. I will figure out the nearest Brico-Loisirs, I don't think I have been to any yet the past ten years.
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Old 28.08.2016, 17:59
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The watering can is aluminum..I water with whatever, mostly.

This tonic?

I think it must be some kind of mold. Coop seems to have some plant fungicides, too. I will figure out the nearest Brico-Loisirs, I don't think I have been to any yet the past ten years.
Yes, that is the stuff. Contains Iron, Magnesium and Manganese.

If the Al can is old, and you don't store water in it, then it probably isn't an issue.

I would try the Pflanzentonic first before I started fungicides, unless I knew exactly that the fungicide was effective against that particular mold. Not that I have anything against fungicides per se, just that the Gesal stuff generally helps plants that are just looking a little bit down get over the hump.
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Yes, that is the stuff. Contains Iron, Magnesium and Manganese.

If the Al can is old, and you don't store water in it, then it probably isn't an issue.

I would try the Pflanzentonic first before I started fungicides, unless I knew exactly that the fungicide was effective against that particular mold. Not that I have anything against fungicides per se, just that the Gesal stuff generally helps plants that are just looking a little bit down get over the hump.
Ok, thanks. Yeah, I will boost their morale a bit first.

They look worse than a bit down, I will see.

Now, I wonder if this tonic will do anything if there are not that many leaves left, I do give them regular fertiliser, no new leaf growth, though.
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Old 28.08.2016, 18:13
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Ok, thanks. Yeah, I will boost their morale a bit first.

They look worse than a bit down, I will see.

Now, I wonder if this tonic will do anything if there are not that many leaves left, I do give them regular fertiliser, no new leaf growth, though.
When was the last time any of them flowered? Did they produce fruit? If the leaves are still producing Chlorophyl the Gesal will usually help.

Many plants will fall into a sort of semi dormant state if they were under stress when the bloom/fruit/seed cycle ends.

btw, never water less than 3-4 hours before dark. Morning is best.
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Today I took 1m off the top of our laurel - now down to a more manageable height!!

8 large bags + 1 green bin + a few loose branches for recycling!!
On Sunday? Did you use a power tool? Or just hand saw?

We had a beautiful laurel on our property when we bought this house. The tree was at least 30 years old and truly magnificent. In my first conversation with the neighbour she informed me that the tree was too close to the property line, which it was, and they want it removed. We had no choice but to comply.

Of course now the neighbours have no shade on their wintergarden and are roasting in this heat. I am sure they regret the tree was cut down.
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When was the last time any of them flowered? Did they produce fruit? If the leaves are still producing Chlorophyl the Gesal will usually help.

Many plants will fall into a sort of semi dormant state if they were under stress when the bloom/fruit/seed cycle ends.

btw, never water less than 3-4 hours before dark. Morning is best.
Hmm, that's interesting. I do have a little helper who got watering plants as one of her home chores a while ago, I wonder if they have been consistently over watered. They get "flooded and the furniture, too, Mom!". But I really think the roots are being eaten by some fungi.

Ha, Migros sells Gesal, too. I am in a small town so that helps.

I also noticed, that aside of blooming eons ago when they were still healthy, they take a very little water.

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Hmm, that's interesting. I do have a little helper who got watering plants as one of her home chores a while ago, I wonder if they have been consistently over watered. They get "flooded and the furniture, too, Mom!". But I really think the roots are being eaten by some fungi.
Doing grown up things, particularly the things that mommy does, especially if you get to do them on your own, do tend to have a sort of addictive element. Enjoy this, it may not last, but try to exert a wee bit of control. Involve the helper in figuring out what was is going on.

Overwatering is the easiest way to cultivate the spores which are always there.
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On Sunday? Did you use a power tool? Or just hand saw?
He posted that yesterday, which was Saturday, so I guess he could use whatever he wanted outside of quiet hours.
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LOL , sorry nought to do with gardening. We had a VERY loud rock concert today from 2- till 5pm - and no-one batted an eyelid. Neighbours came along and joined in - easy peasy.

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