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The lack of rain is already taking its toll in our garden. A big hortensia has dried and shriveled leaves already. This is our third year in this house and every year this plant looked pitiful though never as early as his year. It has most likely been here for many years judging by its size but maybe its time to replace them with something less thirsty? We also have a rhododendron of similar dimensions which will probably be showing signs of drying next.

How would you handle this? Do I really need to water these mature plants that are practically the size of trees?

I would water them,regardless of being a mature shrub or not, we suffer a proper drought here in Biel for some time now and I hope too to get some rain soon....I get a ton and a half of dust from the motorway building site over the road onto my plants


As for the lawn, make use of the soil being as dry as it is now and air the lawn (vertikurtieren) before you put some lawn feed out. If you haven't got a machine to do so, there are a few gardeners etc in our region who rent them out
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Old 24.04.2017, 13:34
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Basically a garden newbie... planted a felsen birne tree (shadbush / juneberry) which is about 2m tall already.

I think about watering it twice a week for the first six months... about 4 litres of water a time... does that sound about right? and do I continue over winter?
You need to reduce watering over winter. In fact unless there is an exreme drought (very unlikely in the winter) I wouldn't water it at all during its rest period.

In fact I'd reduce watering now too. I assume you put the tree in before its foliage came out? In that case the fact that it is pushing out foliage shows its getting water, and probably that it has added plenty of roots since you put it in. Watch those leaves and if they start drooping they aren't getting enough. But under normal conditions they should be fine.
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Old 24.04.2017, 13:48
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In fact I'd reduce watering now too. I assume you put the tree in before its foliage came out? In that case the fact that it is pushing out foliage shows its getting water, and probably that it has added plenty of roots since you put it in. Watch those leaves and if they start drooping they aren't getting enough. But under normal conditions they should be fine.
Hasn't the tree just been planted? It will take a few months for the roots it needs to grow out of the rootball and go deep down into the soil. Until then, the soil needs to stay moist.

Not sure whether 4 litres is enough in one go - twice as much once a week would be better than 4 litres twice a week to ensure the roots really get a good soaking.


The tree won't grow much this year as it will be busy making those roots but next year should start growing taller.

Agree with the winter watering - not really necessary here.
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

hmmppf, bragged too soon

Two of my salad seedlings have pegged it and went over the compost bridge to join the greener pastures on the other side.
The remaining 7 look ok, as do the rest of the plants, strawberries are really thriving this year.
I'd be glad for a drop of rain or two soon, it has been way too dry for too long now hereabouts.
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

We're looking at options for a hedge between us and our neighbours, however, this part of the garden sits partly above the under ground garage and the soil depth is only 35 - 40 cm. We were thinking of laurel, but a local garden centre advised against it as the soil would be prone to dry out. He suggested Eleagnus spp. as they are more hardy in poor soil conditions. We looked it up and it is indeed highly adapted for dry, windy conditions, and has a perfumed flower and even produces olive-like fruit. Anyone have an experience with this or can perhaps suggest an alternative?
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We're looking at options for a hedge between us and our neighbours, however, this part of the garden sits partly above the under ground garage and the soil depth is only 35 - 40 cm. We were thinking of laurel, but a local garden centre advised against it as the soil would be prone to dry out. He suggested Eleagnus spp. as they are more hardy in poor soil conditions. We looked it up and it is indeed highly adapted for dry, windy conditions, and has a perfumed flower and even produces olive-like fruit. Anyone have an experience with this or can perhaps suggest an alternative?

Eleagnus is a popular shrub when it comes to poor soil quality. It seems able to grow in virtually any assorted dirt with a low or even absent humus and nutrient content and can thrive nevertheless.

It's the first time though that i hear it also does well in the dry. I'm not saying that's not the case. But I would verify that independently.
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

So who else is crying into their coffee this morning?

A good 20cm of heavy wet snow here. Added to the 'toast' list:

Two lilacs
The flowering chestnut
Several thuja
And my crowning glory, a 'mountain' azalea that is at least 25 years old.


I think the fifth horseman of the apocalypse is a snowman, oder?


Well, come the Eisheiligen looks like I'll be starting all over again. Again.
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So who else is crying into their coffee this morning?

A good 20cm of heavy wet snow here. Added to the 'toast' list:

Two lilacs
The flowering chestnut
Several thuja
And my crowning glory, a 'mountain' azalea that is at least 25 years old.


I think the fifth horseman of the apocalypse is a snowman, oder?


Well, come the Eisheiligen looks like I'll be starting all over again. Again.
Oh no, my heart really goes out to you fellow gardeners, this is terrible to stand by and watch this happening.
((((( hugs)))))
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Old 28.04.2017, 09:03
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We're looking at options for a hedge between us and our neighbours, however, this part of the garden sits partly above the under ground garage and the soil depth is only 35 - 40 cm. We were thinking of laurel, but a local garden centre advised against it as the soil would be prone to dry out. He suggested Eleagnus spp. as they are more hardy in poor soil conditions. We looked it up and it is indeed highly adapted for dry, windy conditions, and has a perfumed flower and even produces olive-like fruit. Anyone have an experience with this or can perhaps suggest an alternative?
We have three of them in our mixed hedge and they grow incredibly well. They are planted in poor quality soil and in full sun all day long and quite exposed to wind. Despite this they still need trimming serveral times a year so I would say they'd grow anywhere.
They provide a pretty good privacy barrier pretty quickly.


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So who else is crying into their coffee this morning?

A good 20cm of heavy wet snow here. Added to the 'toast' list:

Two lilacs
The flowering chestnut
Several thuja
And my crowning glory, a 'mountain' azalea that is at least 25 years old.


I think the fifth horseman of the apocalypse is a snowman, oder?


Well, come the Eisheiligen looks like I'll be starting all over again. Again.
Oh no. That must be heartbreaking for you.

A quick look reveals no damage as far as I can see here but we have been very lucky to have avoided the frost and snow up to now.
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Old 28.04.2017, 09:47
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Only snow is in the mountains around here:



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Old 28.04.2017, 10:07
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

I'm hoping that the majority of the new stuff that went it will weather the worst of it - adding that we weren't nearly as hard. Spirea's look OK, Berberis perfectly happy. Our Pieris Japonicas weren't looking too clever straight after planting. I sometimes have "Angel of Death" fingers!!

The cover stuff still looks strong too - so again fingers crossed.

The Japanese maple has had its new top leaves toasted - but the wider arc is looking OK - so fingers crossed. I haven't checked the witch hazel.
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

woke up to about 20cm of snow- thank goodness my most precious plants, David Austin roses and tree peonies are against the thick stone walls- the one lilac we didn't prune 2 years ago has colllapsed on one side- looks like branches have actually broken. Will prune it hard after flowering.

Sun has come out now, so a Spring Winter wonderland
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Old 28.04.2017, 11:25
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Loads of broken trees near us. I'm sure I had planted taller plants to make a hedge a couple of weeks ago but it seems a much lower hedge now.
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Basel got snow last week but I don't think it was 20cm (I was out of town). I still haven't been over to the garden, but will go tomorrow and see what's up (and what's down).

I'm so sorry to hear about the plants that didn't make it When something like a tulip dies, it is tough, but when a 25 year old established bush is hit - that is terrible.
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

Ah, what a lovely day in the garden

My in-laws bought me my choice of plant to add to my garden as a memorial to the recent passing of my mother. I chose a lilac bush: something that will bloom each spring and fill the air with a beautiful scent.

Today I planted that, as well as the honeysuckle which finally won the decision of what to plant in order to add some privacy one of these days. I also dug up the vegetable beds again and pulled out the fresh weeds. Next weekend I will be ready so plant some seeds

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Re: How about a gardening thread?

If we get a freeze then I apologize - I couldn't resist and bought and planted some nice tomato plants in the garden this week

Today I also sowed some sweet corn - that should be an interesting experiment!

The grapes are definitely dead, although I did find a little baby vine buried under some leaves that survived - we'll see how well it does now.


And that is today's garden report
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

I was going to set up a Swiss Gardening group on Facebook then found there's one there already.
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If we get a freeze then I apologize - I couldn't resist and bought and planted some nice tomato plants in the garden this week

Today I also sowed some sweet corn - that should be an interesting experiment!

The grapes are definitely dead, although I did find a little baby vine buried under some leaves that survived - we'll see how well it does now.


And that is today's garden report
Why not buy a cheap cloche or tunnel?
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Why not buy a cheap cloche or tunnel?
Probably because 1) the plants I bought would be too tall for the ones I have seen and 2) I do not want to figure out where to store it for the remainder of the year
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Re: How about a gardening thread?

I make my own with various posts & canes. I put hail net over the top.
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