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Will my L-Permit be a problem in my apartment search?

My company relocated me from the US about a month ago and I currently have an L-permit. Not sure what the rational/politics were behind me getting an L-permit but my position is intended as long term. Are landlord nervous to rent to people with L-permits? I've noticed when I've been applying the applications only list A, B, and C.
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My company relocated me from the US about a month ago and I currently have an L-permit. Not sure what the rational/politics were behind me getting an L-permit but my position is intended as long term. Are landlord nervous to rent to people with L-permits? I've noticed when I've been applying the applications only list A, B, and C.
Yes, it might cause sone trouble. Make sure you have a letter from your company (in German) that states you have no limit on your contract and what your salary is. That seemed to help us!
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Old 18.03.2012, 21:05
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Re: Will my L-Permit be a problem in my apartment search?

When I arrived here, my family and I had L permits and we had a woman from our school office come with us on our viewings and explained our situation. We had no problems what so ever with her there. I don't know if we would have had the same success otherwise. I think getting a letter is a good thing, but if you could have someone go with you from your company, it would make a world of difference.
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Re: Will my L-Permit be a problem in my apartment search?

Thanks for the responses. I did the whole letter in German, letter from my employeer and debt free letter.

I was denied a flat yesterday. I asked for feedback and the landlord said she didnt feel like I would stay in Switzerland long.....I gave her a window of 3-5 years, I guess that's not long enough!

Fingers crossed on the other two!
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Wish you all the luck. Am myself looking for one too!!
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Re: Will my L-Permit be a problem in my apartment search?

hii.. i think you are going to have major problems to find a flat, all depends on your application.. you need a betribung, application letter fully completed and letter from your company as suggested above. with the high demand , you will usually a second choice for most apartments. send me a pm and ill guide your thoroghly how to make your application strong and some tips if you are interested.

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hii.. i think you are going to have major problems to find a flat, all depends on your application.. you need a betribung, application letter fully completed and letter from your company as suggested above. with the high demand , you will usually a second choice for most apartments. send me a pm and ill guide your thoroghly how to make your application strong and some tips if you are interested.
Realise I am responding to an old thread, but rather than than incur wrath for creating a new one on an old topic! ;-)

I, too, am in a similar position. The permit offered was an L, but the work (I am told) is longer term. Indeed, one of the fears at my interview was that I would not stay the course!

I am finding the L permit to be a bit of an issue when filling in the form, as I cannot convey my intention to stay here long term. (Dreamcatcher - could you send me the tips as well?).

Also regarding the Betreibungsauszug, as I am coming straight from the UK, I cannot supply one of these. Will a UK credit report be sufficient?

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Even if you were here for a week, it ( Betreibungsauszug or Betreibungsauskunft - searching the forum on these keywords yields many useful threads ) is still required, and available for a fee of CHF17 from the local parish in CH.

Sample forms and guide in this thread:

Apartment rental forms: what is "Konf"?
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Even if you were here for a week, it ( Betreibungsauszug or Betreibungsauskunft - searching the forum on these keywords yields many useful threads ) is still required, and available for a fee of CHF17 from the local parish in CH.

Sample forms and guide in this thread:

Apartment rental forms: what is "Konf"?
Thanks...been trying to find out about that, and even asked the agent. Crap - I need to do this urgently then. Where would I find the one for Zurich central? What does local parish translate to? Does it take long, as I have already started work, and vanishing from work for apartment visits and such will at some point become annoying for them, I am sure, although so far the banter about work hours is not including me... :-)

I have gone through the application form process, and had a friend review my very poor German attempt, the only thing I wasn't sure about was the monthly salary - gross v net. Is that after all govt. and personal deductions. if it is a noob question, I will search more on that, just discovered the forum yesterday...

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Re: Will my L-Permit be a problem in my apartment search?

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Depends on your Kreisburo

WHich Kreisburo do I register at?
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Depends on your Kreisburo

WHich Kreisburo do I register at?
I registered at Kreisburo 1, Stadthausquai 17, which was the one the agent took me to. Didn't even know until we went through the process that there were multiples :-) Was a slight problem because I didn't have an address yet (usual chicken and egg with, getting a permit to get an apartment).

I am now in managed (pricey!) accommodation, but still in Zurich (near HB), so hopefully no issues there, although I am learning not to take this for granted.

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Re: Will my L-Permit be a problem in my apartment search?

Another 2 questions, if I may be so cheeky:
1) I moved into this apartment on Thursday, so havent notified the Kreisburo that I am there yet..will this cause an issue?

2) Ok this one, i already sort of know the answer but I could be surprised: For the parish thing, do I have to be there in person? Is it possible to phone up and do it? Just trying to avoid all the time off work...

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Re: Will my L-Permit be a problem in my apartment search?

hello slayer, you being from UK does not have a B permit. I knew a guy whom I had interviewed was a new comer from UK, with a B permit and flexibility to changed job with any employer. You may want to cross check with your employer. Also do mention your gross annum salary, in the letter you get from the company. It helps a lot.
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hello slayer, you being from UK does not have a B permit. I knew a guy whom I had interviewed was a new comer from UK, with a B permit and flexibility to changed job with any employer. You may want to cross check with your employer. Also do mention your gross annum salary, in the letter you get from the company. It helps a lot.
Hi anshuiitk, I didn't understand the first part of your comments. What should I cross-check with employer? It is definitely an L permit (as I have it), as the contract is for 6 months (but may roll on, I am 'verbally' informed).

For the second part, the form specifically requested net salary. But on payslip, there are two sets of deductions, employer and employee. Is net with both of those deducted?

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Hi anshuiitk, I didn't understand the first part of your comments. What should I cross-check with employer? It is definitely an L permit (as I have it), as the contract is for 6 months (but may roll on, I am 'verbally' informed).
Even if its a recurring contract, your employer could apply for a B permit for you. And if they apply for a B Permit, the chances that you may get one is very high. So next time, when they renew your L-permit, cross check with them, and see if they could apply a B for you.

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For the second part, the form specifically requested net salary. But on payslip, there are two sets of deductions, employer and employee. Is net with both of those deducted?
Monatlohn on your salary slip * 12 months is your figure. This is generally mentioned by employer, when they give you the employment letter to be attached with the application for your new home.

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Re: Will my L-Permit be a problem in my apartment search?

Ah yes, the employment letter is something I do not have. Probably because my employer offloads contracts to an agency. I will have to ask about this. Same issue with the permit - employer goes to agency, says, need someone sorted out for 6 months - you get an L permit. I did question it, but this is 'normal'. Said in that voice of Swiss finality.

Because the employer is not connected to the proceedings, difficult to get the right choices.

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Re: Will my L-Permit be a problem in my apartment search?

Can i further ask, is the Betreibungsamt and the Kreisburo the same thing?

If my Kreisburo was at Stadthausquai 17, is that the same place for the debt thing as well? if not, where, or where do I find out? tried googling but cannot find a clear answer - links from here to the Stadt Zurich website seem to be broken...

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Re: Will my L-Permit be a problem in my apartment search?

Slayer, you need to be prepared that for a single Betreibungauszug, they charge 17 CHF and that too in cash (no cards). If you have partner/family, then you require 1 for each of them . Njoy...
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Re: Will my L-Permit be a problem in my apartment search?

jrspet: thanks for the info, really appreciate that, was finding the official site a bit of a headache...turns out my Betreibungsamt is 7 mins walk from my apartment! Result! :-) Should be able to get this done on the way to work, if they open early...

anshuiitk: thanks for that info...my wife is intending to come out, but so far, she is in the UK and not registered permit-wise here yet. So I guess I have to focus on myself. Now to find out what documents they need...permit, passport, and perhaps another form to fill in...in German? :-)

It is quite funny - at the Kreisburo, had to fill in everything in German, and then I got a customer satisfaction form - in English! Fantastic..

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