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Old 16.04.2012, 16:01
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Re: Construction Company to avoid! - Lerch & Partner AG

this is an apartment, what about the others peoples apartments?

A couple of suggestions, your website doesn't fit properly into firefox, lots of small icons on the right hand side?? and you can't use the scroll bars properly

I'd also stick to the proper issues, small damage to laminate flooring and paint work isn't really an issue, laminate flooring sucks, so it doesn't do your cause any good.

Good luck
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Terrible pictures hopefully you will find a solution soon enough
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Re: Construction Company to avoid! - Lerch & Partner AG

Always retain 10% for snagging issues, once you pay in full it's not going to be easy.
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this is an apartment, what about the others peoples apartments?

A couple of suggestions, your website doesn't fit properly into firefox, lots of small icons on the right hand side?? and you can't use the scroll bars properly

I'd also stick to the proper issues, small damage to laminate flooring and paint work isn't really an issue, laminate flooring sucks, so it doesn't do your cause any good.

Good luck
Support this. You really need to rework your web site to be clearer, and merge the "they-also-screw-up-the-finishing" part into a single image/slide.
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Old 18.05.2012, 18:44
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Re: Construction Company to avoid! - Lerch & Partner AG

Where's www.left-in-the-lerch.com?

Good luck mate!

I've gone through two new builds here in the last 15 years and have been very lucky and can honestly say both houses has a "Swiss finish". Both developers were always very upfront and honest. We were just lucky I suppose...
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Re: Construction Company to avoid! - Lerch & Partner AG

Is that Lerch based in Winterthur. Their logo is on a yellow background ???
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I'm curious how you responded to their letter, and how they then reacted.
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Old 23.10.2012, 09:46
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Lerch & Partner AG sent me this heavy letter from their legal team, Kellerhalls .. Click here to read the letter
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My lawyer responded with a letter which stated that the content was factual and based on my experiences with Lerch & Partner AG.

Never heard anything else from Lerch & Partner AG.
That's the bit I was interested in. So it was just a scare tactic, then. Care to post your lawyer's response to them?
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Re: Construction Company to avoid! - Lerch & Partner AG

Nice website.

But if I really wanted to warn potential customers, I'd do it in German.
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Nice website.

But if I really wanted to warn potential customers, I'd do it in German.
I would wager that most people able to afford their services speak good English
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Re: Construction Company to avoid! - Lerch & Partner AG

I don`t understand how this happened?

Was there an Architect involved, who oversaw the building process?
If there was, then he/she is responsible, from what I understand of the building industry here.

Or a Baufuhr? (He who oversees the standard of each procedure, same as Architect, but a bit cheaper - he doesn`t take a percentage of every item, just receives a salary)

Or any one person in charge of the building process?

At handover, surely there was an inspection of the building, by yourself, or whoever contracted for the building?

If there were sub-faults, then usually you are presented with a written indemnity stating that, for example, the laminate flooring will not be level due to the sub-floor - you either accept that or it is re-done.

Did the bank just release the money in full without authorization from whoever they loaned it to? THAT person must have signed agreement?

Building firms are responsible for at least 25 years after completion, for faults in their building process.

I think you need to contact the industry involved with building rights/wrongs - your Gemeinde will have the details you need.

If there are balconies/concrete roofs, you need to be satisfied they were built to standard!
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I don`t understand how this happened?

Was there an Architect involved, who oversaw the building process?
Why?
Clearly, in 2009 already, these were long sold before the first bucket of concrete flowed and their contracts seem to be worded in a way that makes it extremely difficult to proof any wrongdoing on their part.

I think one of our secretaries has property there, too - and they're also not happy with L&P, says my coworker who rents one "level" of houses below yours.
I hope you've got legal cost insurance because L&P will most likely try to drag it on forever in the hope that you (and the rest of the owners) just write it off or move on - it seems to be a rather successful business model - at least during boom times.

It's all a big shame because the location is absolutely superb (I live on the other side, one bus-stop closer to Zurich).

As they say: you can fix anything, but the location....

My guess would be that once the housing-boom comes to an end (and people actually have a choice of just walking away from an object), they'll either re-brand or shut down completely and leave all the law-suits behind.
But as this is Switzerland and a con-man will always be a con-man, the players will quickly re-surface at a different company, with a new name and you can then link it at haus-forum.ch and here.


Thanks for your site and good luck.
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Why?
Clearly, in 2009 already, these were long sold before the first bucket of concrete flowed and their contracts seem to be worded in a way that makes it extremely difficult to proof any wrongdoing on their part.

I think one of our secretaries has property there, too - and they're also not happy with L&P, says my coworker who rents one "level" of houses below yours.
I hope you've got legal cost insurance because L&P will most likely try to drag it on forever in the hope that you (and the rest of the owners) just write it off or move on - it seems to be a rather successful business model - at least during boom times.

It's all a big shame because the location is absolutely superb (I live on the other side, one bus-stop closer to Zurich).

As they say: you can fix anything, but the location....

My guess would be that once the housing-boom comes to an end (and people actually have a choice of just walking away from an object), they'll either re-brand or shut down completely and leave all the law-suits behind.
But as this is Switzerland and a con-man will always be a con-man, the players will quickly re-surface at a different company, with a new name and you can then link it at haus-forum.ch and here.


Thanks for your site and good luck.
Why? Because that is how things are done here in Switzerland.
It`s not a case of "Have Bakkie, Wheelbarrow, am builder".

Also, Swiss people do not buy from strangers, normally, there is "tradition" involved ....... Who designed it, Who built it, Who was in charge of site, Who else is involved, Who, Who Who.

A building firm has to keep up their insurance for 25 years after they`ve closed down, just for the reasons the OP stated. Building costs are high, as are the standards. So HOW did the builder manage to get paid for that standard of work?

So that was why I asked those questions.
Actually, as you quoted my post, your reply is rather confusing - sheds no light on the gloomy affair of the OP.
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Why? Because that is how things are done here in Switzerland.
It`s not a case of "Have Bakkie, Wheelbarrow, am builder".

Also, Swiss people do not buy from strangers, normally, there is "tradition" involved ....... Who designed it, Who built it, Who was in charge of site, Who else is involved, Who, Who Who.
If you search haus-forum.ch you will realize that he's not the only one who's been a victim - and this has been going on for years.
It can't be only gullible expats who rush to buy the first building they see.

Actually, this is more or less how it works (or worked, word is that it has improved somewhat) with every (larger) general contractor in Switzerland: the contract they give you is worded completely to their advantage and it is your duty to propose changes to it that can be agreed amicably.
If, like in this case, the general contractor does not want to give in, you better walk away from it ASAP.
BTW, from the links on the page I can see that they're already planing a new project in Stallikon, closer to the road (also source of much controversy among the people living higher up...).
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