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Old 29.04.2012, 19:22
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First Time Swiss House Mover

Hey guys,

Hope you're all in a good mood because I need guidance on moving house in Switzerland. I'm moving from a serviced apartment in Zurich to a 'real' flat in a few weeks.

Firstly, I'm receiving the contract in a few days, anything I should lookout for. I've been told I sign the contract, then we have the handover which will also be when we mark down what's broken etc. Is that correct? Also how through will I need to be with the picture taking? Is it true the old client needs to get professional cleaners AND repaint the flat? Is it normal to have a handover on a weekend day?

As for bills, internet, etc how long do they take to setup? I don't have a lot of time and rather not be without internet, etc.

Thanks for your help guys.
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Re: First Time Swiss House Mover

Hi Ope,

a couple of things to check in the new apartment:

Are there any light fittings? Quite often (I think most of the time) tenants are expected to bring (and install) their own light fittings.

What is the washing situation like? Do you have your own washing machine, or is there a communal machine? Is there a roster for use, and is it fair/reasonable?

Now, I can't recall the contract signing 100%, but I think what you've been told is correct.
Be sure to be very thorough with details of existing damage on the handover - and (iirc) by law you have a period (two weeks, I think?) in which you can report other existing damage that has to be fixed by the landlord (or, more correctly, outgoing tenants). I'm not sure if the law requires professional cleaners, but the place has to be extremely clean - as if it's not, and you include that in your handover check sheet, they can't hold you to the same cleaning standard ... the repainting is, again, dependent on a range of factors - but if it looks bad, and there are many holes or marks from things being on the walls, be sure to write it down in detail (eg, not just the room they're in, but specific walls/heights and numbers of holes/marks).

Internet can be set up quickly - when I first arrived in the country I walked into a Swisscom office on a Friday morning, the phone was on the following Monday, and the internet running by the Wednesday or Thursday. Also no problem when moving to a new apartment (well, not with Swisscom - some kind soul had cut the telephone wire to our apartment down in the exchange box, which meant we had to get an electrician out to sort out why our internet and phone were not working ... but apart from that it would've been only a day or two without service).

Basically, at the hand-over, record everything which you may need to rectify when you move out - or be prepared to pay for the repairs yourself, later. While your landlord may be kind and generous, it's always best to be on the safe side.

Oh, one last thing - mail redirection. You can get that sorted quickly and easily at the post office, and it can run for a full year (iirc), but each time you get a bill over the next period just make sure to notify the biller (if they're regular) of your change of address. If you're moving to a new Gemeinde, you'll also need to sort the paperwork for that (deregistering at your current Gemeinde, and taking that letter and a copy of your rental contract to register in your new Gemeinde).
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Hi Ope,

a couple of things to check in the new apartment:

Are there any light fittings? Quite often (I think most of the time) tenants are expected to bring (and install) their own light fittings.

What is the washing situation like? Do you have your own washing machine, or is there a communal machine? Is there a roster for use, and is it fair/reasonable?

Now, I can't recall the contract signing 100%, but I think what you've been told is correct.
Be sure to be very thorough with details of existing damage on the handover - and (iirc) by law you have a period (two weeks, I think?) in which you can report other existing damage that has to be fixed by the landlord (or, more correctly, outgoing tenants). I'm not sure if the law requires professional cleaners, but the place has to be extremely clean - as if it's not, and you include that in your handover check sheet, they can't hold you to the same cleaning standard ... the repainting is, again, dependent on a range of factors - but if it looks bad, and there are many holes or marks from things being on the walls, be sure to write it down in detail (eg, not just the room they're in, but specific walls/heights and numbers of holes/marks).

Internet can be set up quickly - when I first arrived in the country I walked into a Swisscom office on a Friday morning, the phone was on the following Monday, and the internet running by the Wednesday or Thursday. Also no problem when moving to a new apartment (well, not with Swisscom - some kind soul had cut the telephone wire to our apartment down in the exchange box, which meant we had to get an electrician out to sort out why our internet and phone were not working ... but apart from that it would've been only a day or two without service).

Basically, at the hand-over, record everything which you may need to rectify when you move out - or be prepared to pay for the repairs yourself, later. While your landlord may be kind and generous, it's always best to be on the safe side.

Oh, one last thing - mail redirection. You can get that sorted quickly and easily at the post office, and it can run for a full year (iirc), but each time you get a bill over the next period just make sure to notify the biller (if they're regular) of your change of address. If you're moving to a new Gemeinde, you'll also need to sort the paperwork for that (deregistering at your current Gemeinde, and taking that letter and a copy of your rental contract to register in your new Gemeinde).
Thanks for your help!

The washining facilities are in the flat which is great :-D. I think you're right to the cooling off peroid of 2 weeks. I should confirm the light fittings today.

The Gemeinde is an interesting one, I didn't know I had to deregister from the old one. I just thought I go and apply, I'm moving from District 5 to Opfikon.

Internet sounds comformting thought it might take like 2 weeks. Any suggestions on ISPs? I want 20 MB+ and real unlimited download, phone and TV I might as well take anyway.
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Thanks for your help!

The washining facilities are in the flat which is great :-D. I think you're right to the cooling off peroid of 2 weeks. I should confirm the light fittings today.

The Gemeinde is an interesting one, I didn't know I had to deregister from the old one. I just thought I go and apply, I'm moving from District 5 to Opfikon.

Internet sounds comformting thought it might take like 2 weeks. Any suggestions on ISPs? I want 20 MB+ and real unlimited download, phone and TV I might as well take anyway.
Swisscom (again, we've only used them) have a package where you get unlimited downloads that gives you free calls to all Swiss landlines (not mobiles, or numbers outside the country, but useful if you call a lot of Swiss offices/businesses). Can't recall the speed, but we got the fastest Swisscom offered ... chose not to have their tv option.
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Re: First Time Swiss House Mover

Thanks :-D. I'm for waiting for the contract and trying to gently poke the agent to do the handover as soon as possible. Next week would be good but I think the old tenant (moved out last week) wants the cleaners to come Saturday after next.
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So I've signed the contract, which is great! Now I signed a document to do with the deposit and Coop bank, anyone used them before? Just wondering how long it will take them to open the account etc.
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Last question, I've been told my handover is in German ... am I screwed? I don't know a word of German ...
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Last question, I've been told my handover is in German ... am I screwed? I don't know a word of German ...
If you haven't already, it may be useful to sign up with the Mieterverband (Renters' Association) - if you're a member, I'm pretty sure they can send along a translator to help you out.
Otherwise, find a good friend (or work colleague?) who's available and can help with the language. In the worst case, though, I'm sure you can just point at obvious problems, and get an indication of where they're written on the form ... and remember, you do have two weeks to ensure the info on those forms is correct!
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Re: First Time Swiss House Mover

Thanks that's comforting, I will look into the association idea. Thanks :-D

Any idea on my previous questions?
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