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Final cleaning: self or cleaning agency?

The date of final cleaning approach for many tenants in Switzerland! A friend of mine says that he wants to clean his apartment himself !

From experience I know this is not a good idea because the owner will perhaps not quite clean enough. I know they look around until all the hidden corners. My opinion is he must take a cleaning agency with guarantee. That way if the owner is not happy, the cleaners are there to redo the work and my friend can immediately back his money to the bank!

What are your experiences?
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End of tenancy cleaning - DIY?

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Re: Final cleaning: self or cleaning agency?

Lots of people told me: Agency!
They know exactly what to do and how...
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The date of final cleaning approach for many tenants in Switzerland! A friend of mine says that he wants to clean his apartment himself !

From experience I know this is not a good idea because the owner will perhaps not quite clean enough. I know they look around until all the hidden corners. My opinion is he must take a cleaning agency with guarantee. That way if the owner is not happy, the cleaners are there to redo the work and my friend can immediately back his money to the bank!

What are your experiences?


We are moving out of our 4 1/2 bedroom apartment in July and we will definitely be doing the cleaning ourselves.

I have inquired to some cleaning agencies as to what exactly they provide for the fairly standard price of CHF 1'000, and it really, really isn't anything your friend cannot do himself. I think it is an absolute waste of money to be honest..
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Re: Final cleaning: self or cleaning agency?

"and it really, really isn't anything your friend cannot do himself. I think it is an absolute waste of money to be honest.."


but the risk is that the owner is not happy with your cleaning, not to mention it is much much work to clean everything: windows, bathrooms, kitchen, blinds, carpets, ....
I have moved several times and also do the cleaning myself but I can tell you that never again I will not want to do, I pay an agency, I don't get tired and I'm sure if there is the problem the agency will clean until the owner was satisfied!
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Re: Final cleaning: self or cleaning agency?

Pants-Face look very correct price:

http://www.anibis.ch/fr/services%20p...lf=True&scid=0
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Why is it so expensive?
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Why is it so expensive?
Three reasons:

1. The cost of labour in Switzerland
2. The standard demanded by landlords
3. The guarantee and the risk that additional work will be required

From what I understand, the final cleaning of an apartment must be very, very thorough -- not just superficial items, but insides of dishwashers, washing machines, dryers, inside cabinets, drawers, cupboards, etc. It pays to get a professional to do the cleaning as they know the standard that is required and which items landlords typically check.

Also, double-check your lease to see if you've already paid for the cleaning. In ours, it states that we need to pay a cleaning fee of CHF700-, which is actually something of a bargain. I'll happily pay the CHF700 and not worry about handing it back clean.
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We are moving out of our 4 1/2 bedroom apartment in July and we will definitely be doing the cleaning ourselves.

I have inquired to some cleaning agencies as to what exactly they provide for the fairly standard price of CHF 1'000, and it really, really isn't anything your friend cannot do himself. I think it is an absolute waste of money to be honest..
We have got 10(!) quotes: from 2800 to 3400( from Zurichclean) in the end we wrote an email to everyone saing : "sorry, we have got a better deal, good luck"
Half of them offered lower price, and finally we have got the agency for 1700( the first offer from them after visiting us was 2900!!!!!).
Shop around in plenty of time( we started back in March)
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Re: Final cleaning: self or cleaning agency?

Hi,

in my experience depends from the situation your are in:

1. Did you havea a cleaning lady before? Because if you did, then the apartment should be pretty clean and most important was kept clean. Most of the time people need to clean it once a week in order to avoid any final cleaning shock!!! If you didn't get a cleaning person before, then it will be best for your to get a company. Of course you can do it yourself if you have time to waste...

2. Is the apartment old or new style? Usually in old style apartment the imperfection you leave behind are more remarkable.. therefore is harder to clean it yourself.

In my experience, I had a cleaning person coming from time to time and when I had to move I did it myself.. hold on...

the owner had complain and had it clean it again... but I paid around 100 chf instead of the 600-700 chf the cleaning company wanted for my apartment...

so your choice..

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The date of final cleaning approach for many tenants in Switzerland! A friend of mine says that he wants to clean his apartment himself !

From experience I know this is not a good idea because the owner will perhaps not quite clean enough. I know they look around until all the hidden corners. My opinion is he must take a cleaning agency with guarantee. That way if the owner is not happy, the cleaners are there to redo the work and my friend can immediately back his money to the bank!

What are your experiences?
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Re: Final cleaning: self or cleaning agency?

I cleared my apartment of everything so it was bare, like when I moved in.

I started at the back room, so I would not need to walk back through to it causing prints or anything.

I made my way around in a logical order, ensuring that I would not need to go back and potentially dirty what I had cleaned.

I did things in this order:

1. Cleaned windows inside and out
2. Dusted whole room, ceilings, walls, switches, skirting
3. I then cleaned with a cloth, the lights, switches, and skirting
4. I then hoovered the room
5. I then got my pads on, and scrubbed the floors. To ensure proper clean, mops dont always catch things.
6. Sprayed freshner
7. Moved onto next room

I repeated this process for each room in the building. The oven had broken right before I moved and was to be replaced so fortunately didnt have to tackle that one.

Fridge was naturally cleaned, kitchen wardrobes etc etc.

This took me approximately 10 hours. I had never cleaned so hard in my life. I have much respect for professional cleaners now.

I was proud though!

Upon entry of apartment for inspection, it was deemed not clean enough.

I had to pay 660chf.

Will I be cleaning again? No chance!
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This took me approximately 10 hours. I had never cleaned so hard in my life.

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Upon entry of apartment for inspection, it was deemed not clean enough.
I've heard enough stories like this to rid me of any thoughts of trying to clean it myself. If I'm going to have to pay the money anyhow, at least I'll let someone else do the heavy lifting!
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Re: Final cleaning: self or cleaning agency?

What VillageIdiot and JordanBarr said. After dealing with multiple moves in both D and CH I can attest to the necessity of having a cleaner. On top of all the other reasons, let's face it, you're moving into a new place and the last thing you want to be concerned with is cleaning underneath the sink in the kitchen of the old place and scheduling repeated visits with your old landlord just so that he can tell you that he'll be keeping half of your Kaution because blah blah blah.

It's another joy of living here, like the light fixtures. On the other hand, you know that your new place should be reasonably clean when you show up.

And you can be happy you aren't in Germany, where most places come sans kitchen.
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Hi,

in my experience depends from the situation your are in:

1. Did you havea a cleaning lady before? Because if you did, then the apartment should be pretty clean and most important was kept clean. Most of the time people need to clean it once a week in order to avoid any final cleaning shock!!! If you didn't get a cleaning person before, then it will be best for your to get a company. Of course you can do it yourself if you have time to waste...
Aris
Strange, I twice had a cleaning lady and wasn't convienced at all. Most of the time I had to clean it anyway, because I couldn't afford and be bothered to have them come more than once a week. I moved several times and did all the cleaning myself. It took about six hours for a 3 1/2 piece after the furniture had gone. The trick is to clean the things you don't use anymore in advance (shutters, cellar) and do the rest on the last day.
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Re: Final cleaning: self or cleaning agency?

I told my landlord I can't find an agency (everyone I spoke to said they were only working with existing clients) that can do the end cleaning, and he said he will arrange it and the cost is 680CHF.

But true. the agencies I did find charged minimum of 1000CHF so I think 680 is a good deal. Still ridiculous expensive compared to the end cleaning of my home back in the US which was just $150.
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But true. the agencies I did find charged minimum of 1000CHF so I think 680 is a good deal. Still ridiculous expensive compared to the end cleaning of my home back in the US which was just $150.
$150 ? For bringing out the trash and flushing the toilet?
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Re: Final cleaning: self or cleaning agency?

My husband moved twice while we did not find an appropriate apartment ,that satisfied the conditions that Mogrationsamt asked him ,when he apply for my visa.

Both times we clean the flats ourselves using the advice that I got from a friend ,that has reinigung company . I help her several times,and I saw what is importanat....Bouth time,we I done everything alone,and it was ok...

The secret is the razor blade, water,and medical alcohol...nothing alse... Of course,for the kitchen and bathroom you need to use preparations that removed scale formed by water,and for the oven spray to kill the fat,but dont use expencive stuf for flors,windows,wood,ceramic,metal.....just use water and alcohol....when you think everything is clean ,look again under the sink, under kitchen units, that is what they watch and controlling. ..

I am currently unemployed and if someone needs help ,around Zürich or Winterthur,I will be glad to help with a symbolic payment...Just write me at pp...
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