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Help please!!

Hi, just after a bit of advice.... We left our house at the end of may but have been unable to rent it so far... The house is now empty as we have now moved into our apartment. On our homegate advert, we stated that the house would be available immediately, as we are currently paying for two places and obviously this is straining. With this in mind, we had a couple come to look at the house and they came a second time. They stayed an hour and a half (!) and then said at the end that they wish to take it at the end of September. Obviously this doesn't benefit us at all, and we would like to have someone take it as of the 1st sept, so we don't have to pay for that whole month. Unfortunately it now seems that they have signed the contract and move in the 1st oct. do we have any leg to stand on, in that we could have found someone to move in sooner, as the advert said immediately, not end of sept.... Feeling fed up!! Any advice is appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 29.07.2012, 11:59
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Re: Help please!!

why did you let them sign the contract if you're not happy with the date?
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Re: Help please!!

Considering that you have been trying to rent it since the end of May (without success), what makes you think you would find someone now? Do you actually have someone who would have been interested in moving in immediately or are you getting yourself worked up about something that may never have happened?

October 1 is one of the standard move in dates in the region. September 1 isn't so the potential for someone wanting to move in on September 1 would have been less anyway.
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Old 29.07.2012, 12:30
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Re: Help please!!

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besides maybe they don't want to pay additional rent either and their notice period means they can't/don't want to move sooner.

Sorry, but no leg, unless you can find a short term sub let 'til end Sept.
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Re: Help please!!

Thanks for the advice...
We didn't have any say as to whether the contract was accepted/not... they just applied directly to the landlord, and they've privately signed the contract with him, and then the landlord consequently let us know afterwards. We were just about to renew the pictures that were up on homegate in the hope we would get some fresh people coming to have a look - but this all happened before we did. Now we are stuck paying the rent until the end of september. I am aware that the 1st of October is the official moving day. We chose to move outside this time, and yes - that's probably our fault, but the people who were in our current place wanted it rented from the 1st June, and so we respected that, rather than say we'd wait until September. I just wanted some advice as to where we stand with it - do we not have any say at all as to when we want people to take over our lease?!
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Old 29.07.2012, 14:46
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Re: Help please!!

Try and look at it this way: you have been trying since May to find somebody to take over the rental contract on your house without success, (maybe the rental price you were paying was above the market rate?) and even now, you have nobody around that is willing to sign a contract. So why are you complaining, you should be pleased that someone has taken it on and let you get out of your contract. if the rental price is too high the house might have remained empty until your contract finished.
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Re: Help please!!

If we had moved on the moving day, which is the end of September, then we would not have to have found a replacement tenant. It would be up to the landlord to find someone, as our contract would be up. I know what you're saying about people not being interested, but as I said, we were about to refresh our homegate advert and take some new pictures etc to gain more interest, and I believe that now it's empty, we would have been able to rent it a lot easier. So, no, I'm not pleased that someone wants to take it as of the end of September, because it makes absolutely no difference to us what-so-ever. Instead, we have to pay 3k a month for the privilege of waiting for the moving day instead of having the chance of finding someone to take over our contract sooner.

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Try and look at it this way: you have been trying since May to find somebody to take over the rental contract on your house without success, (maybe the rental price you were paying was above the market rate?) and even now, you have nobody around that is willing to sign a contract. So why are you complaining, you should be pleased that someone has taken it on and let you get out of your contract. if the rental price is too high the house might have remained empty until your contract finished.
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Old 29.07.2012, 15:23
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Re: Help please!!

Except that if you would not have found someone and the landlord had passed on these people then come the beginning of October the landlord would have been out of pocket. So why should the landlord take that risk?
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Re: Help please!!

Normally, you give 3 months notice and have that time to find a tenant, before you move out... so you don't risk paying double rent...

I can see how you could feel a bit ripped off over that one month's rent, but if you've been paying double rent from May, and haven't found someone, I can understand that the landlord would just want to be sure they won't be out of pocket.

Now, if you had another person who was willing to take the house sooner, and met the landlord's basic requirements, you could maybe wriggle out of the month's rent, but you'd have to find that person first... and in the meantime, you can't blame the landlord for protecting his own interests...
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Re: Help please!!

I completely see why he's accepted them as tenants. The thing also that makes it harder for us to find someone, is that it doesn't appear to have been maintained, renovated or worked on for many years. The windows are all rotting, the bathroom is straight out of the 70's, as is most of the house. I realise we took it in that state, but it does make it somewhat difficult to find anyone else who also likes it that way! Anyway, my original question is, I there anything we can do about it? Ie. keep looking for someone else who can rent sooner...?!
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Old 29.07.2012, 18:43
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Re: Help please!!

Most probably not. They already have signed the contract. And lets say that you do find someone. I dont think the landlord will cancel the contract he already signed
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Old 29.07.2012, 18:53
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I completely see why he's accepted them as tenants. The thing also that makes it harder for us to find someone, is that it doesn't appear to have been maintained, renovated or worked on for many years. The windows are all rotting, the bathroom is straight out of the 70's, as is most of the house. I realise we took it in that state, but it does make it somewhat difficult to find anyone else who also likes it that way! Anyway, my original question is, I there anything we can do about it? Ie. keep looking for someone else who can rent sooner...?!
You rented the place and someone else rented the place too. So that state is a bit irrelevant. You could try to find someone to take an unfurnished place for a few months but you are not likely to find anyone. Plus even if you do, the landlord will likely not accept it.

Had it still had furniture in it, you might well have found someone to rent it furnished for a couple of months.
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I completely see why he's accepted them as tenants. The thing also that makes it harder for us to find someone, is that it doesn't appear to have been maintained, renovated or worked on for many years. The windows are all rotting, the bathroom is straight out of the 70's, as is most of the house. I realise we took it in that state, but it does make it somewhat difficult to find anyone else who also likes it that way!
No use moaning about it when you are moving out, is there? And anyway, given that the landlord has found someone already kind of puts paid to that theory.

Anyway, if the new tenants have signed already it's a done deal.
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Re: Help please!!

So you would like to contest the one month of rent with your landlord? It sounds like the most favorable outcome according to your expectations would have been that you would continue to advertise and show the home in order to get someone moved in on Sept. 1.

If the place is in the condition you describe, did you not anticipate that finding a tenant to sublease when you moved out early would possibly be troublesome?

Considering all the experiences detailed on this forum concerning renting, subleasing, and leaving prior to the end of a contract, I think you probably got out pretty cheaply if you are only out 3K CHF more than you expected.
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Re: Help please!!

Indeed double rent is tough especially with such a high amount so you could have asked to move in Oct 1 or at least Aug 1.
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We chose to move outside this time, and yes - that's probably our fault, but the people who were in our current place wanted it rented from the 1st June, and so we respected that, rather than say we'd wait until September. I just wanted some advice as to where we stand with it - do we not have any say at all as to when we want people to take over our lease?!
Knowing you could be on the hook for rent on your initial rental property until October 1, why you would rent something for June 1 is a mystery.

Landlords generally do what suits them best. In this case he knows you are paying the rent until October 1, and he has a new tenant after that. At this point I would say that you had very little chance of finding anyone for September 1 as most newly arriving families have already found housing and local families generally follow the rigid moving dates.
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Re: Help please!!

having read your further comments, i understand where you are coming from.

yes, i think you can do something: you can find a tenant who is willing to move in on the date that you suggest that is a suitable tenant. if the LL doesn't accept this, then he should take the cost of the extra month, not you.

however, it might be a tough to find a tenant to move on a month which is not a standard move date.
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having read your further comments, i understand where you are coming from.

yes, i think you can do something: you can find a tenant who is willing to move in on the date that you suggest that is a suitable tenant. if the LL doesn't accept this, then he should take the cost of the extra month, not you.

however, it might be a tough to find a tenant to move on a month which is not a standard move date.
I think you overlooked the mention that the contract has been signed for October 1. You cannot pretend to offer a house for rent that is not available...otherwise before you know it we will be reading about that here.
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I think you overlooked the mention that the contract has been signed for October 1. You cannot pretend to offer a house for rent that is not available...otherwise before you know it we will be reading about that here.
well, we'll cross that bridge once the OP finds a tenant
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October 1 is one of the standard move in dates in the region. September 1 isn't so the potential for someone wanting to move in on September 1 would have been less anyway.
May I know why this happens? Why October 1st?
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