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information re tenancy rules sought

I am looking for a website, or contact details, that outlines tenancy rules e.g., who is responsible landlord/tenant for paying what?

In our particular case, we developed moths in one of our bedrooms. We tried all the remedial tasks but to no effect. At last resort we called the “moth busters”, and they outlined that the landlord pays. On quick discussion with our landlord we got the thumbs up to go ahead (no discussion of payment) and the whole apartment has been sprayed, with a follow-up micro spray of the room & cupboard where all the eggs began their feast!...

Upon our landlord receiving the bill from the moth busters, I think he was taken aback by the costs and has sent us a bill for 50% of the costs. It sounds fair of course, but I want to know who’s liable for the costs under tenancy rules?

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Old 14.08.2012, 10:15
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Re: information re tenancy rules sought

I think this is one of those cases where your contract will provide definitive information. If you need a general idea, you might contact the Mieterverband but I would expect the specifics of a contract to override generalities.
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Re: information re tenancy rules sought

Here's some useful information:

http://www.hausinfo.ch/home/de/recht...haedlinge.html

I suggest you read the text to see what applies to your situation. Use Google to translate if your German is not up to it.

If the moths occurred due to lack of due care on your part (ie: apartment not sufficiently clean, old food gone bad, etc), then you will have a difficult time convincing the landlord that it is his responsibility.
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Old 14.08.2012, 10:29
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Re: information re tenancy rules sought

It should be set in your contract. In our case all repairs which cost less than 5% of our rent are to be paid by us, these are minor repairs. Major repairs are to be covered by the landlord.
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Re: information re tenancy rules sought

Hello

I have recently had an issue with my kitchen sink where the pipe under the sink started leaking and water was flowing all over my floor when I drained the water from the sink. I called my concierge to come and take a look and he quickly checked it and when he turned on the tap no water leaked so he said it seemed ok but if it acted up again to call the agency.

The next day it happened again so I called the agency. She didnt speak english and my french is not very good but I managed to get the point across that I had a problem with my sink and I needed a plumber. An hour later the plumber called me and arranged to come around that evening. When he arrived he had equipment for unblocking the sink and asked me if I had a blockage. I told him no (he seemed surprised) and he saw the problem and fixed it within 5 mins (it was the fitting holding the pipes together had moved out of place). The next week I receive an invoice from my agency for CHF256 for the work done to unblock my sink! I was utterly shocked firstly to see that it was for a blockage which I did not have and secondly that the agency sent me the bill. I thought it would go to the landlord as normal maintence of the flat.

I have been trying for 2 weeks to get my agency to call the plumber to get the invoice changed as it was charging for a blockage which was not the case. I still have not had any success.

Can someone please tell me what my rights are here? should this bill be paid by the landlord or me? I feel it should be the landlord. I did not do anything to cause the leak, it happened overtime due to the fitting moving out of place.

I would really appreciate some advise on what to do and how to get in touch with Free Citizens advice in Lausanne. I am afraid if it is not sorted soon i will have a debt at the Poursuite unless I give in and pay.
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Re: information re tenancy rules sought

In Switzerland the tenant pays small maintenance bills under a certain threshold.

For most places, the threshold is taken as 300 CHF

Therefore, as bill is under 300 CHF, the tenant pays.

Yes, it may be different to the previous countries you have lived in. But that is life. And that is Switzerland.
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Re: information re tenancy rules sought

As others have mentioned, it should be outlined in your rental agreement...and that small repairs are covered by you, the tenant...
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Re: information re tenancy rules sought

Thank you for your reply. This is really news to me that tenants have to pay even though it is not their fault the problem occured. I have done some research and I hear that the threshold is usually 1% of your annual rent which is far less than 300chf. Does it vary per contract?

Does anybody know where I can get further advice from a citizens advice bureau?

many thanks for your help
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Thank you for your reply. This is really news to me that tenants have to pay even though it is not their fault the problem occured. I have done some research and I hear that the threshold is usually 1% of your annual rent which is far less than 300chf. Does it vary per contract?

Does anybody know where I can get further advice from a citizens advice bureau?

many thanks for your help
You have to deal with two problems.

First, you need to get the bill fixed so that it is no longer for unblocking your sink. Because a blocked sink would be your problem and your landlord is rightfully not paying it.

Second, you have to persuade your landlord that he has to pay the corrected bill. Which he may readily do once the bill is for the work actually done.
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Re: information re tenancy rules sought

The Mieterverband/Asloca also have extensive information online about tenancy laws.

http://www.mieterverband.ch/bs_mronline_fra_ant.0.html
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Re: information re tenancy rules sought

Thank you for your replies. I already did what 'Swiss in the US' suggested. This is how I saw the problem too that the Plumber gave the incorrect bill and once it was corrected it was up to the landlord to pay.

In the end due to me harrassing my agency so much, they ending up giving in and canelling the invoice and paying the bill for me. It proves a point - you have to fight for everything in this country otherwise you will be walked all over. The 'little guy' is not protected by any sort of tenancy rights in this country. I have certainly learned a lesson for the next time something goes wrong in my flat!!

Thanks again for the responses
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Re: information re tenancy rules sought

Indeed very true.
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Re: information re tenancy rules sought

How much was the bill?
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We just had one of our places done for cockroaches.
The bill came to 300 chf for a 1.5zimmer apartment
They took approx 1 hour to put some gel down.

The tenant denied all responsibility so we ended up paying it.
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