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how much to replace oil central heating boiler

Hi I need to replace our oil central heating boiler. Does anyone have any idea how much this would cost and a good company to go to somewhere in the Valais.
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Re: how much to replace oil central heating boiler

I'm in the middle of researching this now - I have to replace a ca. 24 year old system because the burner no longer meets emission standards. (Does a great job of keeping us toasty warm while using very little oil, though.)

Cost for the whole shebang - replacing the burner (which is the part we are obligated to replace) and the boiler, installation, and disposal of the old system should run around 20,000 to 35,000 according to the various quotes I have. The units that take up less floorspace (condenser?) are at the top end of the scale.

Replacing the burner alone should run somewhere between 3000 to 6000.

(IMO, it makes little sense to put a brand new burner into a 24 year old unit. Who knows how much time the boiler has left - might as well replace the whole thing now.)

One thing that makes it a bit more expensive is the layout of my house - it's a lot of stairs up to the house and down again into the cellar - I may need a crane to bring the unit to the front door. I *think* the quotes also include cleaning/flushing of the underfloor piping.

Hope you find a good solution for your house...


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Had I not diddled around so long I might have saved 5000+ - it seems prices have gone up quite a bit since I first started looking into this a couple of years ago.

ETA 2:

As you can see, there is a wide price variance. You really should get a couple of quotes. But as discussed on another thread, companies often charge to do quotes these days. Generally the price of the quote (ca 100-500) comes off the total price if you accept the offer. But if you turn it down, you may have to pay. Be sure to ask about this upfront when requesting a quote.

I can't recommend anyone in Valais (we are in SZ) but we are looking at systems by Buderus, Weishaupt, Elco (we have an Elco now). You should go to the showroom of the manufacturer and talk about prices and suitability - once you have a better idea of what you might want, then look for a local installation company.

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Re: how much to replace oil central heating boiler

Thanks so much for that, looks quite expensive. I dont think my system is as complicated as yours, we have to get rid of ours for the same reason. It seems a shame because it works really well. I did ask the plumber when I was last at the house and he said about 10,000 to replace. I thought it was worth asking on here what other people had encountered. I dont have to replace until 2014 but starting to do the research. I do have a good agent in the village who knows quite a few people so will start with him but I will get other quotes too! Thank you.
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Re: how much to replace oil central heating boiler

First, use the search funtion, I recall this has been discussed several times here.

As I think I already commented previously on this, will keep this brief.

Yes, there are some variables, like size of house, capacity etc.. but at the low end looking at 20,000 chf. We replaced ours about 2 years ago now for about 25,000 chf, but planned on up to 35,000. But, that was just the heating unit, nothing else.

We had simultataneous work done on the chimney, chimney sweep reported it as not being in acceptable shape. So mason had to come and do that beforehand, as the newer sophisicated oil burner has a lot of piping up through the chimney.

The other thing that will likely have to be looked at, at the same time is the tank. Not sure of Canton Valais regs., probably a bit looser, but Vaud requires a professional inspection with drainage of the tank every 10 years. If at all problematic, likely best to replace at same time as boiler. Our boiler was about 30 years old and dying but the oil tank had been replaced by the previous owner, so it passed inspection, so did not replace at the same time. But this is not often the case as I understand.

On the positive side, the newer models are much more energy efficient, space savers, and heat to more constant and exacting temperatures in my opinion.
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The other thing that will likely have to be looked at, at the same time is the tank. Not sure of Canton Valais regs., probably a bit looser, but Vaud requires a professional inspection with drainage of the tank every 10 years.
Runningdeer, probably a dumb question but what happens to the oil in the tank when an inspection and drainage is required? Do they put it back in?

We never use more than a quarter tank per year, but always fill it full when the Quartier orders oil each summer (because it's cheaper to buy as a group). If I have to have a tank inspection done, I'd sure hate to lose some 3000 liters of oil...
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We had to replace the retention outer to fit in with new laws- and it was amazing. First they sucked out of the oil and stored it, then this tiny guy, a Cuban, climbed into the concrete room that contains the tank, and then climbed into the tank and cleaned it out! I felt really sorry for him! Then they put the tank on sliding castors and fitted the knew retention tank (which has to be capable of retaining ALL the oik in case of leak - in two parts than sealing it.
Couldn't believe they could do so with so little space around. Then re-filled the tank with the stored oil.

We also had to replace the burner to fit in with new emissions laws, but as the boiler was in very good shape, the heating engineer advised up to just replace the burner. Less than 2000- which we thought was excellent value.

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Runningdeer, probably a dumb question but what happens to the oil in the tank when an inspection and drainage is required? Do they put it back in?
Yes, they can store some and put it back, but best to check in advance if they have a capacity limit. We planned and timed ours so that the tank was less than 1/4 full, at the end of the season before the next group purchase.

And yes Odile, it seems to be a profession for small flexible men. Ours has to jump in this tiny room and do the work, I called him the Leprechaun, as he was this small red headed guy who seemed to just leap around in all the tiny places.
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Hi I need to replace our oil central heating boiler. Does anyone have any idea how much this would cost and a good company to go to somewhere in the Valais.
Just for comparison, we replaced our whole system in France a few (~7) years back, including some additional piping for the pool heater and a couple of extra radiators fitting. Total cost was less than 10000eu, and would have been around 8000 without the extra work. All top Viessmann kit.

I know that it would be more than this in CH, just because. But the parts should actually be cheaper due to current exchange rates.
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I'm in the middle of researching this now - I have to replace a ca. 24 year old system because the burner no longer meets emission standards. (Does a great job of keeping us toasty warm while using very little oil, though.)

Cost for the whole shebang - replacing the burner (which is the part we are obligated to replace) and the boiler, installation, and disposal of the old system should run around 20,000 to 35,000 according to the various quotes I have. The units that take up less floorspace (condenser?) are at the top end of the scale.

Replacing the burner alone should run somewhere between 3000 to 6000.

(IMO, it makes little sense to put a brand new burner into a 24 year old unit. Who knows how much time the boiler has left - might as well replace the whole thing now.)

One thing that makes it a bit more expensive is the layout of my house - it's a lot of stairs up to the house and down again into the cellar - I may need a crane to bring the unit to the front door. I *think* the quotes also include cleaning/flushing of the underfloor piping.

Hope you find a good solution for your house...


ETA:

Had I not diddled around so long I might have saved 5000+ - it seems prices have gone up quite a bit since I first started looking into this a couple of years ago.

ETA 2:

As you can see, there is a wide price variance. You really should get a couple of quotes. But as discussed on another thread, companies often charge to do quotes these days. Generally the price of the quote (ca 100-500) comes off the total price if you accept the offer. But if you turn it down, you may have to pay. Be sure to ask about this upfront when requesting a quote.

I can't recommend anyone in Valais (we are in SZ) but we are looking at systems by Buderus, Weishaupt, Elco (we have an Elco now). You should go to the showroom of the manufacturer and talk about prices and suitability - once you have a better idea of what you might want, then look for a local installation company.
what did you replace it with?

also, anyone know how often a tank needs to be de-calc'd?
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Thanks so much for that, looks quite expensive. I dont think my system is as complicated as yours, we have to get rid of ours for the same reason. It seems a shame because it works really well. I did ask the plumber when I was last at the house and he said about 10,000 to replace. I thought it was worth asking on here what other people had encountered. I dont have to replace until 2014 but starting to do the research. I do have a good agent in the village who knows quite a few people so will start with him but I will get other quotes too! Thank you.
You say your heating system works well, but you have until 2014 to change it.
I take it it failed the emission control.

Our heating system is dated from 1971. In 2005 it failed the emisson control and we were told to we had a few years to find a solution.
I talked to our chimney sweep about this and he said to me, the inside of the system was still OK. I should look for a new burner, which would also work on a new Heating system, as well as the old system.
This is the one he told me about, and which I then bought.
The MAN Rocket burner http://www.mhg.de/en/products/oil-and-gas-burners/
Our old system is still going strong with this MAM burner (it passed again the emission test last month), what could man ask for more.
Its not the cheapest to buy, but Fr.3000 is not Fr.20000.

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