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What is reasonable access to our rented house?

About 6 months ago we were informed of our landlord's intention to sell after only 8 months of living here. Since then we have had numerous viewings but no sign of a sale. We have been told that the property is horrendously overpriced, even by Swiss standards (all the local banks value it around 30% less). According to the lady who handles the lease we are obliged to give reasonable access. What exactly is reasonable access? It is driving us mental having to constantly clean the house to Swiss standards and have strangers walking through the house with the agent and we even have photos of our stuff on the internet. If we get pushy and refuse access more than once a month what are the consequences likely to be? We are more than happy to move away and never have anything to do with these people ever again but unless we get given notice by the landlord we will receive no assistance from my husband's employer. They are not going to give us notice because they then lose out on almost CHF5000 a month while it doesn't sell. So there is no end in sight for this inconvenience. Surely the request for access is not reasonable if the asking price is not reasonable? The other links I have found on EF seem to suggest that there is no right of access until we have been given notice to leave, or we have given notice to leave, but the lady handling our lease (Swiss) says we have no rights to refuse access if they request an appointment.
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Re: What is reasonable access to our rented house?

If you are in Zug, reach the MV for advice:

http://www.mieterverband.ch/zg_top.0.html

Industriestrasse 22, 6301 ZUG

Monday: 14.00 -17.00 clock
Tuesday to Friday: 09.00 - 11.30 clock
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Re: What is reasonable access to our rented house?

Wow, that sounds horendous! My sympathies.

I`m not too familiar with the "law" in this instance. But I would say, WHY clean to "Swiss standards" for prospective buyers? You`re just making it easy for the agent to trek viewers thru any old time?

Also, I would object MOST strenuously to any photos of the interior containing my personal objects! That would not be acceptable in any country! If the photos were not withdrawn immediately I`d tell the the owner/agent they will be responsible for ALL the insurance.

I lived in an apartment that was up for sale, and the owner would phone and make an appointment, usually for one day per week, and state how long he would need to have it viewed (how many clients).

When we bought our house here, we were told when we could view it - and it was EMPTY/VACANT.

Common sense says that you have leased the house for a certain period, so it is YOURS for that time. When you allow viewers to view it, is up to you. My opinion - for what it`s worth.
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Re: What is reasonable access to our rented house?

Thanks for the feedback/advice. I have managed to get hold of a translation of General Terms and Conditions to the Lease Agreement and I think it can be summed up as follows:

Rights of tennant - zero
Rights of landlord - anything he wants them to be

I'm shocked at how one-sided these conditions are. I think I'll stop here in case I'm tempted to say what a really think.
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Thanks for the feedback/advice. I have managed to get hold of a translation of General Terms and Conditions to the Lease Agreement and I think it can be summed up as follows:

Rights of tennant - zero
Rights of landlord - anything he wants them to be

I'm shocked at how one-sided these conditions are. I think I'll stop here in case I'm tempted to say what a really think.
Well there you go!
You pay rent for you home, and you have NO rights to it?

So, just kick back and relax. Spread yourselves around, leave the dishes undone, tell the kids they can scatter toys wherever they like and don`t need to pick them up, leave the bathwater in, toilet unflushed, pizza boxes on coffee table, loud Hip-Hop music playing while you watch TV with earphones ............... until the agent/landlord/clients have gone.

Then, if any complaints, tell them they need to make an appointment to view, when it suits you and you have time to tidy/clean up in preparation.

Just be a happy family, take time to make the "mess", then resume you usual life afterwards.
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About 6 months ago we were informed of our landlord's intention to sell after only 8 months of living here. Since then we have had numerous viewings but no sign of a sale. We have been told that the property is horrendously overpriced, even by Swiss standards (all the local banks value it around 30% less). According to the lady who handles the lease we are obliged to give reasonable access. What exactly is reasonable access? It is driving us mental having to constantly clean the house to Swiss standards and have strangers walking through the house with the agent and we even have photos of our stuff on the internet. If we get pushy and refuse access more than once a month .
I am sure this is illegal.Sue the bastarts
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