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Implications on Renting for over five years

Hi - I was wondering if anyone can help. We have been renting the same appartment since we arrived in Switzerland nearly five years ago. I have this vague memory of someone explaining when I arrived the implications of staying longer than five years and ten years. Do we pay less for damages when we leave. Do we have to leave the appartment in the same condition as when we moved in. We were the first tennants. How much is considered wear and tear.

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Hi - I was wondering if anyone can help. We have been renting the same appartment since we arrived in Switzerland nearly five years ago. I have this vague memory of someone explaining when I arrived the implications of staying longer than five years and ten years. Do we pay less for damages when we leave. Do we have to leave the appartment in the same condition as when we moved in. We were the first tennants. How much is considered wear and tear.

Any help on this would be very welcome

Many thanks

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After 10 years the condition of the paintwork does not matter!
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Re: Implications on Renting for over five years

The Lebensdauertabelle from the Mieterverband might answer your questions about what is considered 'wear and tear':
http://www.mieterverband.ch/zh_mb_le...tabelle.0.html
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Hi - I was wondering if anyone can help. We have been renting the same appartment since we arrived in Switzerland nearly five years ago. I have this vague memory of someone explaining when I arrived the implications of staying longer than five years and ten years. Do we pay less for damages when we leave. Do we have to leave the appartment in the same condition as when we moved in. We were the first tennants. How much is considered wear and tear.

Any help on this would be very welcome

Many thanks

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5 years is not really a long time in rental terms. In my experience, based on hundreds of handovers, the items that take that get the most wear and tear are walls and floors. Paint is considered to last 8 years but the trouble is if you have flat walls, cheap non washable paint and kids or pets, you won't get 8 years out of a paint job.

Wear and tear is very subjective. It is always much more difficult when you are the first tenants in a new place, or a newly renovated one. Nothing can look new after 5 years. But often tenants have caused damage that could have easily been prevented had they avoided using abrasive cleaning products and materials that are too harsh for delicate surfaces. The other problem I often encounter is that tenants just don't clean their appliances often enough. If you keep using an oven or cooktop with old food spills, they bake on and cause damage. The older the item, the value is depreciated, so your share of the cost is lower.

If you look at the link in the HEV posted by Meloncollie you look up the specific life span of each item.

I know a landlord who had tenants who stayed almost 20 years. The place was in a terrible state but the landlord had to pay 100% of all the repairs. In the end he decided to sell the house.
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The Lebensdauertabelle from the Mieterverband might answer your questions about what is considered 'wear and tear':
http://www.mieterverband.ch/zh_mb_le...tabelle.0.html
I guess I am just stupid but how do you use this table?

I tried entering keywords but it never did find anything?
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I guess I am just stupid but how do you use this table?

I tried entering keywords but it never did find anything?
When you click on the link (the word is in blue) you are directed to a new screen, then there is a drop down box and you have to select what you want to look up.
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When you click on the link (the word is in blue) you are directed to a new screen, then there is a drop down box and you have to select what you want to look up.
Thank yu for your detailed reply
Exactly what I did
but I just get the result you see in the first screenshot.
The screen I use is here in the second screenshot
I have the feeling there is somethig very simple that I am failing to do

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Re: Implications on Renting for over five years

This is the table (in french).
I expect the german verson of ASLOCA (Mieterverband) has a similar list on their web-page. Just a question of searching on their site using the correct key word, afraid I can't help there as I don't speak german. http://www.asloca.ch/sites/default/f...rtissement.pdf
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Thank yu for your detailed reply
Exactly what I did
but I just get the result you see in the first screenshot.
The screen I use is here in the second screenshot
I have the feeling there is somethig very simple that I am failing to do
I am not quite sure what the problem is but I think if you click on the "suche" button on the right while the "bitte wählen" was still in the left box, you get an error message. There has to be an item in the left drop down box.

I have hard copies of the tables as I need them on hand when I attend handovers. They can be ordered from the HEV.

Edit. Okay, I think I see the trouble. If you select the first item in the left drop down box, Bad/DU, a new window pops up. Once you close that you have to go back to "bitte Wählen" and select an item again. You don't need to use the "suche" on the right unless you enter something in the right box. The left side is general categories, for example, flooring, the right box is specific, for example, "platten" (tiles) and then you will be directed to a pop up box with just that item.
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