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02.11.2012, 20:37
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| | Dishwasher problems
Hello everyone
My dishwasher stopped 5 min after it started running. The first 2 times I used it the dishes came out dirty. No red light visible...
Any tips? I feel like im washing dishes 24/7 and I would like my dishwasher to give me a hand every now and then
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02.11.2012, 20:43
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A few things to check : are the filters clean? Is the drain free of debris? I had a piece of plastic stuck in mine that made mine shut off because it couldn't drain. Is it loaded properly? Can the spray arm move? The manual should tell you how to clean the filters, etc.
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02.11.2012, 20:57
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| | Re: Dishwasher problems
Clarification needed:
- has the dishwasher previously worked OK?, or
- have you just moved in, and what you have described, your only experience of this machine?
- are you renting, in which case is the m/c part of the fixtures?, or
- is it yours?
- would you have to pay for repair and/or replacement?
- make and model?
Use disposable crockery and cutlery or get a dog with a big tongue (but that's another story).
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02.11.2012, 21:02
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| | Re: Dishwasher problems
This happened to me when I moved into my previous place - dishwasher stopped after five minutes the first time I used it. Turns out it was the pump; the machine was 10 years old and the part needed replacing.
I called the gérance and they sent a technician to fix it; didn't have to pay anything, but the machine was part of the fittings.
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02.11.2012, 21:35
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Also check what electricity tariff your on, or house is wired such that we can't use dishwasher washing machine during peak hours so usually right after evening meal, took us a couple of months to work that one out | This user would like to thank Markarina for this useful post: | | 
22.01.2013, 19:20
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So we have this dishwasher that was broken for the second time within a few weeks, the heating didn't work any more. The mechanic tells us not to use tablets for they would damage the heating element (????) and we should use powder, salt and rinse agent. OK, salt in rinse agent are in all the time. Why on earth should the tablets ruin the heating element? Not to mention we have been using them for the last 5 years and nothing ever happened. Any experience with this anyone?
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22.01.2013, 19:30
| | | Quote: | |  | | | So we have this dishwasher that was broken for the second time within a few weeks, the heating didn't work any more. The mechanic tells us not to use tablets for they would damage the heating element (????) and we should use powder, salt and rinse agent. OK, salt in rinse agent are in all the time. Why on earth should the tablets ruin the heating element? Not to mention we have been using them for the last 5 years and nothing ever happened. Any experience with this anyone? | | | | | Never heard such a thing. But that means nothing. (I know nothing). In your manual does it say anything about tabs? Sounds like the heating element wasn't fixed properly. What brand is it?
I did google "tabs ruin dishwasher" and there are a few references to tabs ruining dishes, etc., and maybe there is something in the tabs....i don't know.
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22.01.2013, 19:35
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I had similar non-heating problems in one of my previous machines. It appeared that something (cutlery?) had slipped down and stopped the bottom water arm thingymajig from turning and moving water, so as a precaution there was a safety cutout to prevent overheating.
When the local household appliance repair man came he removed the small front panel below the door, and showed me a little red button to push to reset ....... for the next time.
Depending on your make and model, this may or may not the case here.
If you or anyone else attempt a lookie-looks yourself, unplug the machine first.
P.S. the red button wasn't big or obvious and probably not meant for the householder to fiddle about with - I had to put my hand about half way back and feel for it - hence the need to disconnect from the supply as there are many live components to touch.
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22.01.2013, 19:44
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| | Re: Dishwasher problems | Quote: |  | | | Never heard such a thing. But that means nothing. (I know nothing). In your manual does it say anything about tabs? Sounds like the heating element wasn't fixed properly. What brand is it?
I did google "tabs ruin dishwasher" and there are a few references to tabs ruining dishes, etc., and maybe there is something in the tabs....i don't know. | | | | | The model is VZUG Adora S.
If you use 3in one tablets you can tell the machine. Strangely enough, last time the mechanic said "use only 1/2 tab per go" and we did and haven't used it much sincer then, we were away for 3 weeks and now it breaks again and he says as stated above.
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22.01.2013, 20:40
| | | Quote: | |  | | | The model is VZUG Adora S.
If you use 3in one tablets you can tell the machine. Strangely enough, last time the mechanic said "use only 1/2 tab per go" and we did and haven't used it much sincer then, we were away for 3 weeks and now it breaks again and he says as stated above. | | | | | I haven't gone through the whole thing but there is a section on detergent and one on dishwashing tips. Maybe you've read this already, but if not.... https://www.vzug.com/medias/sys_mast...J216.013-1.pdf | This user would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
22.01.2013, 21:25
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| | Re: Dishwasher problems | Quote: | |  | | | So we have this dishwasher that was broken for the second time within a few weeks, the heating didn't work any more. The mechanic tells us not to use tablets for they would damage the heating element (????) and we should use powder, salt and rinse agent. OK, salt in rinse agent are in all the time. Why on earth should the tablets ruin the heating element? Not to mention we have been using them for the last 5 years and nothing ever happened. Any experience with this anyone? | | | | | Why dont you ask the Technician | 
22.01.2013, 21:30
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You can try e-mailing Zug directly. I have all Zug appliances in my apartment and have had a few problems and e-mailed them with questions when I couldn't find something in the manual. (By the way, all their manuals are available in English online).
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22.01.2013, 21:33
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| | Re: Dishwasher problems | Quote: | |  | | | You can try e-mailing Zug directly. I have all Zug appliances in my apartment and have had a few problems and e-mailed them with questions when I couldn't find something in the manual. (By the way, all their manuals are available in English online). | | | | | Yes Edot provided me with the English version. And after reading it I must say I did everything right. Plus the dishwasher has been in use for two weeks after the first repair. So something is not right here. It can not be the detergent that caused the damage. I will call VZUG that is a very goos idea.
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22.01.2013, 21:43
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| | Re: Dishwasher problems | Quote: | |  | | | The model is VZUG Adora S.
If you use 3in one tablets you can tell the machine. Strangely enough, last time the mechanic said "use only 1/2 tab per go" and we did and haven't used it much sincer then, we were away for 3 weeks and now it breaks again and he says as stated above. | | | | | | Quote: |  | | | | | | | | operating instruction ,section 5, page41 ,re. tabs, 4 paragraph  You welcom | 
22.01.2013, 22:46
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| | Re: Dishwasher problems | Quote: | |  | | | operating instruction ,section 5, page41 ,re. tabs, 4 paragraph You welcom | | | | | You're too kind. I had already figured that out, you know I can read | This user would like to thank MacGregor's Daughter for this useful post: | | 
22.01.2013, 23:51
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| | Re: Dishwasher problems | Quote: | |  | | | So we have this dishwasher that was broken for the second time within a few weeks, the heating didn't work any more. The mechanic tells us not to use tablets for they would damage the heating element (????) and we should use powder, salt and rinse agent. OK, salt in rinse agent are in all the time. Why on earth should the tablets ruin the heating element? Not to mention we have been using them for the last 5 years and nothing ever happened. Any experience with this anyone? | | | | | The Miele technician told me the same thing, not to use tabs, but powder.
I don't use 3-1 tabs as my machine is not intelligent enough to know the difference (it is an older model). The powder is a bit fiddly, tabs are definitely more convenient.
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20.10.2019, 12:47
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Our dishwasher is not working properly. I am not against calling for a technician, but I would like to question local ef experts. At least, after any advice here I will not look stupid when dealing with the technician.
Dishwasher is clean, arms working, no debris anywhere, salt and glass liquid are fully loaded. All instructions read and followed. However, it seems not enough water goes in: when it's working, it sounds like the usual process, but when I open it at the end of the cleaning cycle, the dishes are still dirty and the tablet is lying on the bottom, just slightly disintegrated.
There is no error message.
When I open it after the cycle, there's this usual cloud of steam and heat. Just like after a normal wash.
Felt the water intake pipe (after the filter) - water seems to go into the machine.
Tried to place upturned cups to see if the water goes in, but they are empty at the end of the cycle.
No leakage around or under the dishwasher.
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20.10.2019, 12:58
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An easier way to check if waters going in is to manually engage the door closed switch and start it running with the door open. The handle of a teaspoon is usually just about the right size, just push it in and trip the spring-loaded tab inside the mechanism (and use the normal door open handle to disengage).
If you leave it too long it'll start spraying water everywhere, so don't leave it alone, and/or remove the spinning parts to stop it from spraying everywhere.
Make sure that these are spinning freely with nothing getting in the way, of course. One other potential cause you don't mention is the nozzle that connects into the rear of the top shelf sprinkler, which can sometimes become misaligned.
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20.10.2019, 13:22
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Did you accidentally fiddle with/hit and move the tap for the dishwasher - which is usually under the sink?
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20.10.2019, 14:32
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| | Re: Dishwasher problems | Quote: | |  | | | Did you accidentally fiddle with/hit and move the tap for the dishwasher - which is usually under the sink? | | | | | No, I don't think so... But in what way could this affect the dishwasher? Although tap and dishwasher sit on the same water supply, they have separate valves. Both are open currently.
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