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I did our house myself (according to the NIN 2010 Swiss standards (mainly the same as the IEC standards, incidentally)),


One conduit (20mm diameter) had 15 single cables in it! How the hell they got them in in the first place is beyond me, but the only way to remove them was to bind the ends of the cables around a 2m steel pole, wedge one end against the wall and repeatedly smack the other end with a large hammer..
Let me know which weekend you are free to do our house
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Old 07.03.2017, 11:06
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Hey all,
Today I had an electrician around for a site survey and quotation. Basically the electrics in the house are in good order, but from the late 70's, of particular concern was the fact that half the fuses are 6A and remainder 10A. Not sure what this really means in real terms, but I'm guessing that running too many modern appliances simulataneously might result in an abrupt halt.

Anyway, the electrician recommended replacing the fuses boxes in the cellar (CHF7k) and approx CHF23k to rewire the house Are these quotations normal for a standard family home as they seem a little on the high side. We rewired our entire house in the UK, with data points etc.. for £4k
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Castro - did you get this done in the end?

Do you have an 'after' photo and is there any chance of letting us know how much it cost in the end?

We going to get it done but ours is a mixture of modern RCDs and 1970s fuses.
Did the electric company put in a new digital meter or did they retain the old one?

Were there any problems that you didn't foresee?

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Old 07.03.2017, 11:24
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Re: Re-wiring of house - costs?

Today one may want to think of a total house renovation. Rewiring is going to make a mess and then you could be left with an old heating system, kitchen, bath etc.

With interest rates so low you could borrow 250K - 300K and have the lot done in one go...
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Today one may want to think of a total house renovation. Rewiring is going to make a mess and then you could be left with an old heating system, kitchen, bath etc.

With interest rates so low you could borrow 250K - 300K and have the lot done in one go...
The only problem being, that this would put many into negative equity
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Today one may want to think of a total house renovation. Rewiring is going to make a mess and then you could be left with an old heating system, kitchen, bath etc.

With interest rates so low you could borrow 250K - 300K and have the lot done in one go...
Our place has been renovated. The wiring is fairly new, underfloor heati ng has been put in, the boiler is two years old etc but for some reason, the fuse board is original but with various RCDs bolted on to it for a few of the circuits.
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Re: Re-wiring of house - costs?

One of those questions that just can't be answered without more detail about so many things. We had our house tested, as requested by the Commune, a couple of years ago and ordered to do the necessary work. Only parts which were not up to date were rewired- and other small things done, like putting sockets into insulating boxes where in wood panelling, etc. They also left the original fuse box but replaced some of the fuses and trips according to new regs. This is when we discovered the dryer in the utility was plugged into a non earthed socket - yiiikes. All done and tickety boo now. About 2.500 CHF. It was nice to put this agains tax though.
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Our place has been renovated. The wiring is fairly new, underfloor heati ng has been put in, the boiler is two years old etc but for some reason, the fuse board is original but with various RCDs bolted on to it for a few of the circuits.
Has it passed a recent inspection?

If so - just leave it as is!!
We were worried we were going to hit with extra costs when the kitchen work was done - but the electrician said "no problem, its all ok" and "I'll give it a fresh inspection"
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Has it passed a recent inspection?

If so - just leave it as is!!
We were worried we were going to hit with extra costs when the kitchen work was done - but the electrician said "no problem, its all ok" and "I'll give it a fresh inspection"

Normally it is a specially trained electrician who does the inspection and they don't do general work as a rule, unless it is on the side.

There are companies set up, just for these electricity controls and to extract more money from your pocket
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If so - just leave it as is!!
We were worried we were going to hit with extra costs when the kitchen work was done - but the electrician said "no problem, its all ok" and "I'll give it a fresh inspection"
No thanks. I'd quite like RCDs for every circuit. I've already had one bad electric shock (my own suitable fault in this case) but it did make me think.

I could just fir the RCDs on the existing backboard but I'd quite like to do it/ get it done properly.
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Re: Re-wiring of house - costs?

It is not uncommon to add 30% to the quote because you are a foreigner

I've also had tradesmen ask if we could see the lake or what the view is like to try and gauge how much our house was worth. I try to close my blinds facing the views and showed them just where the work is to be done.
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Re: Re-wiring of house - costs?

Be very carefull when doing work on these boxes : the one in the original 2012 picture, and most others of the same vintage, almost certainly have copious amount of loosely bound asbestos inside. Currently dealing with the same problem / need to rewire the entire house.

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Re: Re-wiring of house - costs?

Same situation, looking for a rewire of a small 1940's house in Zurich. Any recommendation of good firm for this gratefully received.
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It is not uncommon to add 30% to the quote because you are a foreigner

I've also had tradesmen ask if we could see the lake or what the view is like to try and gauge how much our house was worth. I try to close my blinds facing the views and showed them just where the work is to be done.
all depends if you have integrated and speak the language.....

You think by closing the blinds they don't know where they are ?
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all depends if you have integrated and speak the language.....
I'll never be at the level to talk tradesman dialekt. With a Swiss friend a kitchen salesman wanted to see her house before he would give her the price on a ex-demo kitchen.

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You think by closing the blinds they don't know where they are ?
Views add around 30% to property values. They have no idea what you can see from our place as we live in the town between other houses.
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Normally it is a specially trained electrician who does the inspection and they don't do general work as a rule, unless it is on the side.

There are companies set up, just for these electricity controls and to extract more money from your pocket


Actually the cost of our electricity check was very reasonable and the one minor fault he found he called another electrician to correct it on the spot so he would not have to come back.


In our previous house the inspection was carried out, also a minor fault was found and the inspector arranged for it to be corrected at a later date(which took less than 15 minutes) and then he came back to inspect.


The inspector we used this time was on the list given to us by the canton. We heard from a few electricians that some inspectors can be more difficult than others. Unfortunately the one who did the check is not allowed to do any work for us.
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Actually the cost of our electricity check was very reasonable and the one minor fault he found he called another electrician to correct it on the spot so he would not have to come back.


In our previous house the inspection was carried out, also a minor fault was found and the inspector arranged for it to be corrected at a later date(which took less than 15 minutes) and then he came back to inspect.


The inspector we used this time was on the list given to us by the canton. We heard from a few electricians that some inspectors can be more difficult than others. Unfortunately the one who did the check is not allowed to do any work for us.
When we had our last check, there was a minor fault - one of the sockets was missing an earth.

The chap who did the check was happy for me to fix it myself and send him photographs of the repair + the receipt for the new socket.
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I'll never be at the level to talk tradesman dialekt. With a Swiss friend a kitchen salesman wanted to see her house before he would give her the price on a ex-demo kitchen.

Views add around 30% to property values. They have no idea what you can see from our place as we live in the town between other houses.
1) Probably to avoid him having to make a time consuming estimate for something that would maybe not fit; seems common sense to me to go and visit if local and discuss in order to get to what the client want/expects.

As the friend was Swiss, i hardly see your point.

2) You think tradesmen don't know where the view is with or without blinds ?

What do you do, blindfold them from when they leave the depot to arriving at your house ?

30% is probably an exageration, although you may have paid this amount
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Same situation, looking for a rewire of a small 1940's house in Zurich. Any recommendation of good firm for this gratefully received.
I did it all myself, with the exception of the main panel. Putting everything in wall (unterputz) is a major piece of work. You can rent a special saw for cutting the tubing slots, and buy a diamond hole saw for locating the outlets, and all the materials for replacing the branch circuits are available at Jumbo/doit/Bauhaus etc.

But it's a major piece of work. I did it room by room, taking everything back to brick, cutting for the outlets and conduits, replastering, new floors, cielings paint. It took me about 4 years of pretty hard graft.

Replacing the existing with surface mounted stuff is less work.

Ask about at work. You might find someone who knows someone. If you work in IT then ask the leccy who does your cabling/phone stuff. It isn't unusual for guys who have just finished their license to do private jobs on the side to make a bit of spare cash. Even if you decide to do it yourself, finding a leccy who will order your materials at his discount is worth it (Outlets and switches add up).
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