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Renovating our apartment

Hello All,
We just bought an apartment in Zürich which needs some renovation.
We'd like to move the kitchen, renovate the bathrooms and floors, maybe tear down a wall.
Anybody can recommend an architect which can coordinate the works and provide workers at an acceptable price?
Or alternatively a good company which can do the works?
Thanks for your help!
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Hello All,
We just bought an apartment in Zürich which needs some renovation.
We'd like to move the kitchen, renovate the bathrooms and floors, maybe tear down a wall.
Anybody can recommend an architect which can coordinate the works and provide workers at an acceptable price?
Or alternatively a good company which can do the works?
Thanks for your help!
Nothing like look before you leap then.

Architects are probably way too busy to be interested in this project at a sensible price given the housing boom (except for the ones you wouldnt want) here, and there is not really such a thing as a general "builder" like the UK who organises al the trades.

Certainly the budget for anything done professionally to a good standard is going to be ball park 60-80k for each room (Im assuming you mean more than a lick of paint since you want an architect). Especially in a modern building with already generous spaces, many of the wall will be load bearing concrete, so your plans might get quickly frustrated (I suspect you need permission to undertake any structural work).

Sorry to be a kill-joy, but if that is not your reality you will be doing well.
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Re: Renovating our apartment

Fust do renovation work. They provide a building project manager (Bauleiter) who gets estimates, supervises and coordinates the work for a fee. If you know more or less what you want done and don't need someone to decide for you you probably don't need an architect. I've used them in the past on a couple of projects and things worked out well. I wasn't expected to buy their kitchens or bathroom stuff and chose my own things apart from a couple of items which came from their stock. If you want more info on costs etc you are welcome to contact me.
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Thank you Nixi! I quickly checked the website and they look like a possible solution. I will definitely contact them.
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Nothing like look before you leap then.

Architects are probably way too busy to be interested in this project at a sensible price given the housing boom (except for the ones you wouldnt want) here, and there is not really such a thing as a general "builder" like the UK who organises al the trades.

Certainly the budget for anything done professionally to a good standard is going to be ball park 60-80k for each room (Im assuming you mean more than a lick of paint since you want an architect). Especially in a modern building with already generous spaces, many of the wall will be load bearing concrete, so your plans might get quickly frustrated (I suspect you need permission to undertake any structural work).

Sorry to be a kill-joy, but if that is not your reality you will be doing well.
60-80k might be Wollerau expat prices but if you look around, 80K for replacing the kitchen and two bathrooms is more than enough, in total that is!

Even cheaper if you cross the border and get a german company to do the job

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Re: Renovating our apartment

Self promotion but I can help you with this. I have a company which is specialzed in furniture but we also undertake some renovations and small project such as yours. Renovations here are a bit more expensive and difficult than elsewhere, good pre-planning and purchasing of materials as well as any demolition work you can do yourself will be your biggest savings.
There are a number of display showrooms you can visit to get some good ideas before you start follow the links below:
www.bauareana.ch Volketswil (you can also pick up the latest house magazines for free here ;-)), a mix of all house related building items.
http://www.sanitastroesch.ch/de/standorte Zurich Kitchen and Bathroom display, quite big but too expensive to be a realistic supplier.
www.keramikland.ch In the middle of nowhere, but very large showroom of bathrooms, well worth a drive, their tile prices are good but bathroom items are expensive.
http://www.reuter-badshop.com/index.php German online bathroom supply store, very good prices and delivery is hassle free including sorting out the tax.
www.noonwoodwork.com your friendly carpenter with a few contacts who can help you self-design and manage your project. Please email me via the website with a phone number and details/low resolution photos.
Happy renovating!! Rob
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60-80k might be Wollerau expat prices but if you look around, 80K for replacing the kitchen and two bathrooms is more than enough, in total that is!

Even cheaper if you cross the border and get a german company to do the job
Not being an expat, I cant comment. The OP gives us no more info than wanting to redo a flat in Zurich, including some structural work and outsourcing it all. No doubt you can do it a lot cheaper. What is for certain is that you should do it "in keeping" with the rest of the property or you will destroy (too basic appointment in higher end place) or not add value (over-appointed in a more modest place).
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A link from a happy customer. Big Thanks and recommendation of EF member

The renovations such as above are my speciality, a bit rustic, a bit modern. This was a technically difficult project as nothing was straight, square or level and the ceiling heights were low in places. The challenge was getting leveling and maintaining maximum ceiling heights at the same time as installing a huge amount of insullation due to the weather conditions locally in winter. The patience, hospitality and assistance from Family BB2 made it a lot easier.
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Re: Renovating our apartment

You could talk to one of Patric Simmen's companies www.simmengroup.ch ; our company work with them sometimes and in one area of their business they do organise all services, trades and fixtures and fittings. Kevin Hindler is one of the directors and most probably the best initial English Speaking contact.
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I think you can contact Ikea for the renovating bathroom and kitchen. They have kind of solutions.
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