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Old 26.12.2012, 19:47
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Limonene is nature's paint stripper. You see it sold as orange oil too. However, I'm a chemist who HATES DIY, so I don't have any helpful links on where to buy it, I'm afraid.
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Do you know of anyone who used this successfully?
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Old 26.12.2012, 20:23
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Thanks Frank

Do you know of anyone who used this successfully?
I'm afraid not. I remember reading how much easier it's arrival made asking young lads to do community service removing graffiti, since it replaced xylene, which is quite a nasty solvent. There seem to be a lot of positive Google hits, but I've no actual experience in the matter...
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Old 27.12.2012, 12:05
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Unfortunately, it's impossible to get most of them to turn, it seems.
Then you could try to get a grip in the screw head with pliers (without damaging the wood too much) and turn the screw with them. It might be enough to break the seal. Then finish with a screw driver.

You could also try to tap a flat head screwdriver under the head of the screw to "shock it" this might break the seal as well. Then try the correct size of screwdriver again.
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Re: How to strip old paint from wood - natural remedies?

The top of the screws is flat and aligned with the wood, so I am not able to get under the top of them, without damaging the wood, it seems.
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Old 27.12.2012, 12:36
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The top of the screws is flat and aligned with the wood, so I am not able to get under the top of them, without damaging the wood, it seems.
One trick that I found online is to take a wide rubber band and place it between the screw head and your screw driver. The rubber band will help fill in the hole of the screw and help create tension/traction(?) so that the screw driver can grip the screw. I tried this once and it worked. Hope it can work for you, too.
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Old 27.12.2012, 12:57
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The top of the screws is flat and aligned with the wood, so I am not able to get under the top of them, without damaging the wood, it seems.
To summarize. You have used the largest possible screwdriver (at least the width of the screw head - fills the whole slot) and you have used your full weight to turn it.

Is the slot stripped? If not, you might want someone else (more weight-strength) to try it.

If you finally strip the slot, you can then drill out the screw. Use a metal drill bit about the size of the screw body (you can imagine the size based on the size of the head if you don't have one out to look at). Once drilled out, you can normally get it to move/collapse by turning it with a screw driver or with needle nose pliers (the pointy ones).
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Old 27.12.2012, 14:01
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One trick that I found online is to take a wide rubber band and place it between the screw head and your screw driver. The rubber band will help fill in the hole of the screw and help create tension/traction(?) so that the screw driver can grip the screw. I tried this once and it worked. Hope it can work for you, too.
Thank you! I'm not sure how this works. Can you explain it a bit more?
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Old 27.12.2012, 14:20
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Thank you! I'm not sure how this works. Can you explain it a bit more?
Well, I think this trick is best used for when the screw is stripped and you can't get the screwdriver to fit inside the screw to allow it to turn. So if this is your problem, basically you:

1. Find a wide rubber band that is wide enough to cover the hole inside the screw (the hole in the screw where you would put the screwdriver).

2. Cut the rubber band so it is a long, flat piece of rubber.

3. Put the rubber band over the screw.

4. Take your screwdriver and push it into the rubber band, on top of where the hole inside the screw is, and turn turn turn.

5. The rubber band should (hopefully) allow you to turn your screwdriver and create enough friction so that the screwdriver will "catch" the screw and allow you to remove it.

I found a quick little video on youtube that shows how it's done (though it doesn't provide a close-up):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vLHI_6_yHI

Hope this helps!
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Old 27.12.2012, 14:22
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Re: How to strip old paint from wood - natural remedies?

And here's a photo I found that may help explain:



If your screw is painted over, you could try first chiseling some of the paint out of the screw with a tiny screwdriver and then using this rubber band method.
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Old 27.12.2012, 14:27
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Re: How to strip old paint from wood - natural remedies?

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Are there any natural remedies that can soften old paint?
....... I'm surprised nobody has suggested using some of the local wines that are brewed here.

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Unfortunately, it's impossible to get most of them to turn, it seems.
The only suggestion I can think of with difficult screws in timber is to make sure you:
a) have the right tools, and
b) make sure you are in the most comfortable position possible.

Make sure that the paint is scratched out of the screw head with either a smaller screwdriver or nail etc.
Ensure you have the right sized screw driver (as mentioned previously).

Position the table where you can use your body weight.
If you are worried about the timber, then lay an old blanket or sheet of cardboard down first to protect it.

Have a look at the screwdriver to see if there is perhaps a 'hole' at the top of the handle, or some 'flat sides'.
If there is a hole, you can push another screwdriver through the hole to gain some extra leverage, while pressing firmly down with the other hand.
If there are flat sides.... not as good, but sometimes using an oversized shifting spanner can also help the same way.

Use smaller repeated pushed until the first 'crack', then the screw should turn easily.
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Old 27.12.2012, 14:59
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Re: How to strip old paint from wood - natural remedies?

Salut Spellbound.

Could you not post a photo of your problem screws?
There are so many different types of screws, that I'm sure without a photo of what you are trying to do, its almost impossible to help you.

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Old 27.12.2012, 20:27
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Re: How to strip old paint from wood - natural remedies?

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Old 27.12.2012, 20:48
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Re: How to strip old paint from wood - natural remedies?

If there's still a slot in the screw head, buy yourself an impact driver:

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or drill a hole into the screw head, and screw, and use a small diameter 'easy out':

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... sorry to make judgement, but from the photo, it seems a lot of work and effort, for what appears to be a basic chair.
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Old 27.12.2012, 21:14
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Re: How to strip old paint from wood - natural remedies?

Salut Spellbound.

If it was me I would drill the heads of the screws off.

You need a drill machine and 2 drills. 1 drill needs to be the thickness of the screws (5 or 6mm). The other drill about 3.5mm or 4mm.

With the small drill, drill a hole in the center of the screw head, about 5mm deep. Now drill out the hole with the larger drill until the screw head is lose.
Break of the head and now do the same to the screw on the other side.
When you have both heads off, gently ease the bar of your bench away from the frame, leaving your screws (without heads) in the frame.

You will be left with screws sticking out of the frame about 2cm long. Which you can turn very easily out, with a wrench or gripps.
Hope this helps.



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Old 27.12.2012, 21:38
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Thanks Zamma.

I'm not sure I follow that process exactly. How do I end up with something I can unscrew, if I remove the heads?
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... sorry to make judgement, but from the photo, it seems a lot of work and effort, for what appears to be a basic chair.
Don't worry at all! You are absolutely fine to give your opinion. It's a labour of love on my part, as I find these old tables/stools so charming, and would like to restore it to it's most beautiful self.
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