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Old 11.02.2013, 11:52
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Installing new ceiling lights

Bloody lights from Ikea are p!ss!ng me off. They come with a fixing to hang over a hook in the ceiling, which will even extend to a certain length. Of coruse, that length isn't long enough to reach the hook which is already embedded in the top of a 2" diameter hole bored 3 or 4 inches deep into the ceiling. It's like watching a porn video of a midget and a fat lady trying to get it together. Or so I imagine.

So, I can drill a couple of hole in the ceiling to attach it in a different way. But how the hell am I supposed to get a hole into the ceiling in my flat? The hammer drill on my electric drill with a masonry bit won't touch it I may have hit a particularly tough spot, maybe a specially hard or reinforced lintel or something, but I've no desire to pepper the whole ceiling with holes. I suppose I could then paint it yellow and claim it is supposed to be a Swiss cheese.

I tell you, if that fat lady doesn't start screaming soon, I think I will. At least I didn't black out the neighbourhood when I connected the electrics, despite having to cut the two wires and then trying to get all six ends connected through the light's wiring block. Much cursing ensued when said block stubbornly refused to accept the thick ceiling based wires... or at least both ends of them, so as the second end would go in, the first would pop out of the other side.

Oh, and another thing. Why on earth would you put wall sockets and lighting circuit on the same fuse? WTF? Either I can use my electric drill and risk electrocuting myself, or I can work during daylight hours (11am and 3pm at the moment, it seems like). Assuming I'm not at work. Or it doesn't happen to be during the "ruhezeit".

And now I feel much calmer. Thanks, EF!

The worst thing is, I've got another two to put up after fixing the first one...
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Old 11.02.2013, 11:56
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Re: Installing new ceiling lights

Welcome to apartment living in Switzerland. And this thread is worthless without pictures. Try to snap a pic or two (of the ceiling and the lamp) and post them here. Someone might take a look at it, and be able to fix it lickety-split.
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Re: Installing new ceiling lights

You can get longer hooks, also be very aware when drilling as the cable runs do not always go where you would expect, the conduit is put in as the concrete is poured so it shifts around a bit. Enjoy

BTW if you want a handyman to do it for you give me a PM.
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Bloody lights from Ikea are p!ss!ng me off. They come with a fixing to hang over a hook in the ceiling, which will even extend to a certain length. Of coruse, that length isn't long enough to reach the hook which is already embedded in the top of a 2" diameter hole bored 3 or 4 inches deep into the ceiling. It's like watching a porn video of a midget and a fat lady trying to get it together. Or so I imagine.

So, I can drill a couple of hole in the ceiling to attach it in a different way. But how the hell am I supposed to get a hole into the ceiling in my flat? The hammer drill on my electric drill with a masonry bit won't touch it I may have hit a particularly tough spot, maybe a specially hard or reinforced lintel or something, but I've no desire to pepper the whole ceiling with holes. I suppose I could then paint it yellow and claim it is supposed to be a Swiss cheese.

I tell you, if that fat lady doesn't start screaming soon, I think I will. At least I didn't black out the neighbourhood when I connected the electrics, despite having to cut the two wires and then trying to get all six ends connected through the light's wiring block. Much cursing ensued when said block stubbornly refused to accept the thick ceiling based wires... or at least both ends of them, so as the second end would go in, the first would pop out of the other side.

Oh, and another thing. Why on earth would you put wall sockets and lighting circuit on the same fuse? WTF? Either I can use my electric drill and risk electrocuting myself, or I can work during daylight hours (11am and 3pm at the moment, it seems like). Assuming I'm not at work. Or it doesn't happen to be during the "ruhezeit".

And now I feel much calmer. Thanks, EF!

The worst thing is, I've got another two to put up after fixing the first one...
About "how the hell am I supposed to get a hole into the ceiling in my flat?" try C4?

Or try these?
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Bloody lights from Ikea are p!ss!ng me off. They come with a fixing to hang over a hook in the ceiling, which will even extend to a certain length. Of coruse, that length isn't long enough to reach the hook which is already embedded in the top of a 2" diameter hole bored 3 or 4 inches deep into the ceiling.
So use a piece of string....

PS: is this your ceiling now?
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Re: Installing new ceiling lights

When you have been here a few years you might be told about the "Lamp claws" which make life much easier! But we all have to serve the apprenticeship first....

Buy some of these at DIY stores, Lampenkralle they come in 2 sizes,
http://www.google.ch/search?hl=de&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=104 9&bih=607&q=Lampenkralle&oq=Lampenkralle&gs_l=img. 12..0i24.41920.45680.1.48156.12.9.0.3.3.0.193.1014 .3j6.9.0...0.0...1ac.1.2.img.wqtRXf15PnQ



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...They come with a fixing to hang over a hook in the ceiling, which will even extend to a certain length. Of coruse, that length isn't long enough to reach the hook which is already embedded in the top of a 2" diameter hole bored 3 or 4 inches deep into the ceiling...
If I've understood the nature of the problem correctly, it looks like an S-shaped hook (which you can make of a piece of a wire hanger) used as an extension for the existing one, could be a good solution.
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