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Please help. I am here with my partner and the apartment we are in at the moment has to be vacated in early/mid May. We have struggled to find anything so far as our budget is on the low side and also with so few weeks left there is not much time for planning.

We have been refused on the basis that we are "high risk" because we could potentially move out after two years (in London two years is a long time). I should stop being so honest and just tell them that i plan to live in the apartment for the rest of my days. The amount of brown nosing done to get the agent to even consider us was unreal
Anyway. Now i feel the clock is ticking and pressure rising.

Has anyone ever ended up in a situation where they've not had a place to live?
Also, does anyone know any affordable short term rental company? The ones on homegate are quite pricey, a room with shared kitchen and bathroom for 1200 swissies at least.

Thank you for your help.

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Old 18.04.2013, 12:09
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Hi everyone,

Please help. I am here with my partner and the apartment we are in at the moment has to be vacated in early/mid May. We have struggled to find anything so far as our budget is on the low side and also with so few weeks left there is not much time for planning.

We have been refused on the basis that we are "high ris/k" because we could potentially move out after two years (in London two years is a long time). I should stop being so honest and just tell them that i plan to live in the apartment for the rest of my days. The amount of brown nosing done to get the agent to even consider us was unreal
Anyway. Now i feel the clock is ticking and pressure rising.

Has anyone ever ended up in a situation where they've not had a place to live?
Also, does anyone know any affordable short term rental company? The ones on homegate are quite pricey, a room with shared kitchen and bathroom for 1200 swissies at least.

Thank you for your help.

N
First things first: do you really have to be in Zurich? Prices drop off pretty quickly as you move out of the city, and what you spend in commute can be made up by the lower rent.

If you need something as a stop-gap, have a look at WGs and other landlords used to dealing with students, as they tend to have low budgets and short tenancies. Take a look here: http://www.marktplatz.uzh.ch/wohnungen/
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Old 18.04.2013, 12:23
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Re: Don't want to end up homeless

Check supermarket notice boards & local newspapers

do you know any students might be able to point you in direction of cheap shared accommodation.

Many landlords prefer to speak in German, if you do not, do you have a friend who can to help you.

If you are stuck, perhaps search cheap hotel/B&B who might do you a special monthly rate if paid up front, whilst you are still looking for something more long term.

As said before Zurich is expensive, so maybe consider moving further out.
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www.wgzimmer.ch has cheap accomodation
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Old 18.04.2013, 12:44
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Re: Don't want to end up homeless

Curiously, how much advance notice did your landlord give you, telling you that you had to be out by mid-May?

It seems strange to me that potential new landlords are asking you how long you'd be planning to stay. We've done a lot of apartment-viewing here, and I don't recall ever being asked that.

And considering the high demand for apartments in the Zurich area, it surprises me that they would care if you were to only stay for 2 years.

Anyways, if it were me, and I was in your desperate situation, I have to admit... I'd lie and say I planned to stay there a long time. Just be sure they won't include any lengthy minimum time limits in the rental contract, though I would hope that's rare. Life is constantly changing. People move. Landlords need to accept that or they have no business being a landlord.

I hope you find a great, new place very soon!

P.S. In case you hadn't checked this site already, it's a pretty good one:

www.homegate.ch
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Re: Don't want to end up homeless

If you look in Schlieren, Affoltern, Adliswil, Dübendorf, Kloten etc., you should find something. EVERYONE wants to live in Zurich and those with a higher budget, more time to search and/or better connections will find places.

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It seems strange to me that potential new landlords are asking you how long you'd be planning to stay. We've done a lot of apartment-viewing here, and I don't recall ever being asked that.
I was asked that when I first moved here 9 years ago. A lot of landlords don't like the quick 6-12-18-24 month turnaround that often happens with ex-pats.

1200chf is probably the biggest issue. If you are 2 people - landlords won't be keen to rent you a studio (not enough space) - and for a 1 bedroom place, 1200chf is very little. If you are earning >4000chf per month is quite probable that landlords will reject you as earning too much.

Unless you are only earning <4,000chf per month I would advise upping your budget to more like 1,800chf - you are far more likely to then get a place.
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Thank you for all your replies. I have found them very helpful.
I will keep looking.

The issue i have is this Swiss way of dealing with rental. I fell in love with one particular apartment, we got there first and then about 15 more people turned up. My heart just sank. Some were rather creepy looking, just creeping about the flat... I guess thats the "low budget" crowd as one Swiss person put it.

Now i am not a nasty person but i couldnt help but feel threatened and just plain uncomfortable. I wanted to lock the door and not let anyone else in. It was so very awkward, everyone shuffling about from room to room, squeezing past each other.

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Re: Don't want to end up homeless

Available rental stock is a tiny % of the market in Switzerland - and good quality flats that are cheap will have a lot of applicants - 50++ is not uncommon.

Ultimately something will have to give - you either compromise on quality or you dig deep and pay more.

As I mentioned, it is highly unlike a landlord will rent you a studio:
(Based on homegate)
4600 places for rent in Canton Zurich
177 places under 1200chf
41 that are 2zi or greater
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good quality flats that are cheap will have a lot of applicants - 50++ is not uncommon.
... in Zurich itself.

You don't have to go so far outside before the rental situation gets a lot more sane.
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We have been refused on the basis that we are "high risk" because we could potentially move out after two years (in London two years is a long time). I should stop being so honest and just tell them that i plan to live in the apartment for the rest of my days.
Most application forms do not ask how long you plan to stay. Some landlords love high turnover because they can stick the leaving tenants with costs because they keep redoing things, at someone else's expense. The newer it is, the more the tenants share is.
The longer you stay the worse it is for a landlord.

But most applications do ask why you are moving from where you currently live and if you have been given notice, and references.
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Camping's nice this time of year, may even be able to get a "lake view" if you lucky.
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Hi everyone,

Thank you for the private messages and help, i seem to be unable to reply though. Says i can only send 4 messages in 1440 minutes??? How Swiss, every minute counts. So i have to wait until tonight to reply
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Most application forms do not ask how long you plan to stay. Some landlords love high turnover because they can stick the leaving tenants with costs because they keep redoing things, at someone else's expense. The newer it is, the more the tenants share is.
The longer you stay the worse it is for a landlord.

But most applications do ask why you are moving from where you currently live and if you have been given notice, and references.
We actually talked to the agency and they asked us how long we were planning on staying. We were sooo close to getting it until we mentioned the two years.
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