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Erecting a garden shed?

We're currently living in an apartment in Basel but I've got a new job so we're about to move. We found a great house yesterday in canton Vaud its perfect except for one thing - its got a car port instead of a proper garage. You know those metal frame thingies with a solid roof but just three walls made of metal with holes in it. This is fine for the car but hubby has a motorbike that really needs to be kept properly undercover.

Hubby asked the letting agent if we could erect a large garden shed inside the car port so he could put his bike inside that. She seemed to think it would be no problem. However, having had a look on the forums I'm wondering if we would need permission from the building authorities? Anyone have any ideas?
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Re: Erecting a garden shed?

It's not possible to say for definite, as each Gemeinde can have unique regulations. I suggest that you check it out with the building authorities. If they say that no permission is required, get written confirmation. I was bitten by this a few years back - after being told that a fence I was planning didn't need permission, once a neighbor objected, I got a nasty letter telling me this was an illegal construction - from the same department that had told me the opposite!

Also, as you're renting, get written permission from your landlord too.
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Re: Erecting a garden shed?

One school of this thought is that anything "non permanent" you can build - ie a shed with no attached concrete foundation, that you can take again when you leave.

Another is, anything over 160m high, you need permission from the Gemeinde.

There is also the idea that it is easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission- this would mean, build the shed, see what happens. It really depends on how much of a life your neighbours have - if they can be bothered to complain to "the authorities".
(edit- what Campura said...)
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Re: Erecting a garden shed?

My Gemeinde had the rules published on its website. For us, so long as the structure was not permanent, there was no requirement for permission. Our shed is 2m high.

Read your rental contract. You may not need written permission for a temporary structure. The two contracts in different communities I've seen both said stuff about not making permanent structural changes to the garden and surroundings without permission, but nothing about sheds.
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Re: Erecting a garden shed?

As every one says, the rules will vary by canton and Gemeinde - and even by neighborhood, if your property falls under a Quartier Gestaltungsplan.

Our experience was much like Camupa's. We were told by the folks at the Gemeinde Bauamt that no formal permit was needed to put up a garden shed, only written permission from the direct neighbors. Three said yes, one said no - not that he objected to our shed, but rather he refused on principle, because granting permission would be giving up some of his rights. (Erm...?) So no shed allowed.

Once informal permission has been refused, the next step would be to try for a formal permit. But that requires engaging an architecht to submit detailed plans, footing the bill for an environmental impact study, calling an extraordinary meeting of the Quartier Generalversammelung for a presentation of the project, posting a notice of application in the newspaper, allowing for a public comment period... and distributing several cases of a very nice wine to smooth over ruffled feathers.

All in all, far too much work and expense to put up a simple DIY-in-an-afternoon garden shed.

Around here, any non-permanent structure over IIRC 60cm requires permission from direct neighbors. Any permanent structure, and any non-permanent structure over either 120 or 200cm, (I forget which) requires a formal building permit.

We have the last laugh on the neighbor who refused permission, though. Without a shed, we have no place to store all our garden stuff - so rather than a nice neat classic wooden shed, suitably geranium'd, he gets to look out at our messy jumble of tools and projects-in-progress strewn across our patio.
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Re: Erecting a garden shed?

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One school of this thought is that anything "non permanent" you can build - ie a shed with no attached concrete foundation, that you can take again when you leave.

Another is, anything over 160m high, you need permission from the Gemeinde.

There is also the idea that it is easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission- this would mean, build the shed, see what happens. It really depends on how much of a life your neighbours have - if they can be bothered to complain to "the authorities".
(edit- what Campura said...)
About "anything over 160m high..." that would be some garden shed
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Re: Erecting a garden shed?

Thanks all, some really useful ideas. Luckily I've got a relocation agency helping so I'll get her to wade through all the French for me (moving from Basel I've been learning German so far - French lessons start soon). I think I've found the rules on the Gemeinde website but they're in a scanned PDF so I can't copy them in to a web-translator!

We need to get confirmation from the landlord to let us have a satellite dish so the shed shouldn't make life any more complicated
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Re: Erecting a garden shed?

Living in VD for many years, I would be surprised if you will not need building permission. I think most communes here are being a bit more strict now days with all the building boom, and thus more encrochment on others. I know many who have been reported to the commune for not following the rules, and the outcome is never pretty, especially financially.

We and a neighbor both did the garden shed recently, and both required permission. I think it would be hard to justify that it was not a solid strucutre nor not permanent, unless I am missing something in what you are wanting to do. Your commune is the first stop, they will have all the rules and a person to directly inquire with. However, if renting, it will be up to the owner to do all the official paperwork and permissions.
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Re: Erecting a garden shed?

I actually read about it, about Vaud, and if I remember correctly you do need a permission for that-

Check some law (google translate it):
http://www.rsv.vd.ch/dire-cocoon/rsv...difiante=false
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