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Bathroom tub drain blocked - what to do?

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The drainage in my bathroom tub is really blocked. The plumber has come by at least once to clear it, but it worked only temporarily. Any suggestions on what to do? The water drains now, but very very slowly. And it seems like some black gunk is starting to accumulate in the drain (don't know if it's mold).
I'm going to call the plumber again, but he won't be able to come right away. Anything I can do that could help as soon as I get back to the apartment? (I really don't want to be showering again in that dirty, accumulated, blocked up water.)

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Re: Bathroom tub drain blocked - what to do?

If it is in the shower and you have a 10*10cm stainless drain cover remove that, in there is probably a hair collector. That would look like a tube. Remove it and remove all hair from it. That's often all it needs.
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Use a snake, plunger, etc.

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Re: Bathroom tub drain blocked - what to do?

There are a couple of things to check first. Take a look and see if there is human hair blocking the drain as this is a regular occurence in any country. If it is get a wire coat hanger and undo it so the wire can be poked down the drain to hook the hair out.

Alternatively there are some products designed to pour down the drain hole to clear it. These will be in the cleaning products area with Reinigungs für Bad oder Dusche on them they are rather strong and usually do the trick just follow the instructions on them. There is a realy good one in a purple bottle about a Liter in size that works well but not currently home to check its name.

These options are a lot better than callng a plumber whenever your hair blocks the drain pipe which is the likely cause
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If it is in the shower and you have a 10*10cm stainless drain cover remove that, in there is probably a hair collector. That would look like a tube. Remove it and remove all hair from it. That's often all it needs.
Thanks, I think there is some kind of hair problem involved. I have removed the drain cover and there was a layer of hair underneath (there's a kind of "x" structure where hair can catch, though it's not a sieve so hair can pass through also) there which I removed. I never use the drain cover anymore. But the water is still blocked up and clogged. Any suggestions what more to do?
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There are a couple of things to check first. Take a look and see if there is human hair blocking the drain as this is a regular occurence in any country. If it is get a wire coat hanger and undo it so the wire can be poked down the drain to hook the hair out.

Alternatively there are some products designed to pour down the drain hole to clear it. These will be in the cleaning products area with Reinigungs für Bad oder Dusche on them they are rather strong and usually do the trick just follow the instructions on them. There is a realy good one in a purple bottle about a Liter in size that works well but not currently home to check its name.

These options are a lot better than callng a plumber whenever your hair blocks the drain pipe which is the likely cause
Thanks Wallabie, I'm fairly certain it is a hair problem. Can these chemical products really clear hair - I mean does it completely melt/disintegrate hair and make it disappear wherever and whenever it gets caught in the pipe. Or is still better in the long run to get a plumber to go into the drainage pipe mechanically with some object and pull the hair out mechanically?
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Re: Bathroom tub drain blocked - what to do?

Those products can help dissolve the hair, but if there is standing water in your tub that hasn't drained, it might be difficult to get the product down the actual drain. So I agree with the other suggestion that you should first take a wire coat hangar or something else long, thin and sturdy and put it down the drain and try to dislodge any hair that's stuck in there. Then, if the water starts to drain from the tub, try pouring some of that product down the drain and let it sit for a while (maybe an hour) before rinsing.

You can also buy a suction type thing from places like OBI and Coop Bau & Hobby that are good for sucking water out of a sink or tub. They're usually located near the plungers.

And to avoid problems in the future, you might want to get one of these:



Migros and Coops usually carry them. They catch the hair so it can't go down the drain.
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Those products can help dissolve the hair, but if there is standing water in your tub that hasn't drained, it might be difficult to get the product down the actual drain. So I agree with the other suggestion that you should first take a wire coat hangar or something else long, thin and sturdy and put it down the drain and try to dislodge any hair that's stuck in there. Then, if the water starts to drain from the tub, try pouring some of that product down the drain and let it sit for a while (maybe an hour) before rinsing.

You can also buy a suction type thing from places like OBI and Coop Bau & Hobby that are good for sucking water out of a sink or tub. They're usually located near the plungers.

And to avoid problems in the future, you might want to get one of these:



Migros and Coops usually carry them. They catch the hair so it can't go down the drain.
Thanks Carrie, that's a big help!
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Hello,

The drainage in my bathroom tub is really blocked. The plumber has come by at least once to clear it, but it worked only temporarily. Any suggestions on what to do? The water drains now, but very very slowly. And it seems like some black gunk is starting to accumulate in the drain (don't know if it's mold).
I'm going to call the plumber again, but he won't be able to come right away. Anything I can do that could help as soon as I get back to the apartment? (I really don't want to be showering again in that dirty, accumulated, blocked up water.)

Greengrass
BTW: just because the water doesn't drain from the tub doesn't mean it's the bathtub drain that's clogged - we had a clogged toilet resulting in the water not draining from the bt as well. The only thing that worked was a plunger. Took us half a day to get it fixed :-/

You have to be somewhat careful there - what's definitely a bad idea is filling the tub with water and hoping the pressure will somehow dislodge the plug. This can actually result in a burst pipe which can be extremely expensive!
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These filters are great! Be careful with the special product to clear hair and gunk from drain, not to spill some on the chrome as it will permanently discolor it. You can put masking tape on the chrome or use a funnel.
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BTW: just because the water doesn't drain from the tub doesn't mean it's the bathtub drain that's clogged - we had a clogged toilet resulting in the water not draining from the bt as well. The only thing that worked was a plunger. Took us half a day to get it fixed :-/

You have to be somewhat careful there - what's definitely a bad idea is filling the tub with water and hoping the pressure will somehow dislodge the plug. This can actually result in a burst pipe which can be extremely expensive!
Dawiz,
That's a really good point. I was thinking there might be some other factor than a blocked bathtub pipe involved when both my kitchen sink drain and the bathroom tub drain for some reason became blocked up one day at the same time. They both eventually normalized, but it was really strange that on one day at virtually the exact same all of the sudden they both blocked up and were not draining properly.
I've also noticed now that the bathroom tub drain sometimes has strange orange-colored gunk accumulating around it which is a bit strange as, as far as I can tell, I've not changed any of my showering products and can't think of any products that could be causing this.
If there is some linkage with some other drainage pipe, how could someone figure this out? Is it too complicated for an individual to figure out? Or maybe I should just wait for the plumber.
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That's a really good point. I was thinking there might be some other factor than a blocked bathtub pipe involved when both my kitchen sink drain and the bathroom tub drain for some reason became blocked up one day at the same time. They both eventually normalized, but it was really strange that on one day at virtually the exact same all of the sudden they both blocked up and were not draining properly.
I've also noticed now that the bathroom tub drain sometimes has strange orange-colored gunk accumulating around it which is a bit strange as, as far as I can tell, I've not changed any of my showering products and can't think of any products that could be causing this.
If there is some linkage with some other drainage pipe, how could someone figure this out? Is it too complicated for an individual to figure out? Or maybe I should just wait for the plumber.

If there are several drains involved and if there's dirty water being pushed up into one or more of the drains, you can bet it's the main pipe that's partly or fully clogged. Which floor do you live on, if I may ask? If you're on the ground floor, there may be a general issue with the draining system. My brother had dirty water come up the drain in the basement after dirt had accumulated in the main pipe leading away from the house.

In any case - if this happens frequently, I'd have it looked at by a plumber. They have these pipe cameras that'll show where exactly there's an issue. I'd call a regular plumber and not one of these drain specialists as the latter will be significantly more expensive.
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Re: Bathroom tub drain blocked - what to do?

If you're not into using chemicals, there's a cheap and easy home remedy too. Pour a packet or two of bicarb (that's baking soda for the Americans) into the drain. Add a cup of undiluted vinegar. It will bubble and bring up gross things but help clear any clog. Leave for about 15 minutes, then rinse by running the tap on full with hot water for about a minute. You might need to do this a few times but it works well. Then use the hair-catcher thing Carrie recommended.

The orange stuff you see around the drain is very likely mold. Do you never scrub the tub?
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If there are several drains involved and if there's dirty water being pushed up into one or more of the drains, you can bet it's the main pipe that's partly or fully clogged. Which floor do you live on, if I may ask? If you're on the ground floor, there may be a general issue with the draining system. My brother had dirty water come up the drain in the basement after dirt had accumulated in the main pipe leading away from the house.

In any case - if this happens frequently, I'd have it looked at by a plumber. They have these pipe cameras that'll show where exactly there's an issue. I'd call a regular plumber and not one of these drain specialists as the latter will be significantly more expensive.
Dawiz, I live on the 1st floor, I'm not on the ground floor. Does that mean the problem can't be related to the main pipe? Or can it still be?
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If you're not into using chemicals, there's a cheap and easy home remedy too. Pour a packet or two of bicarb (that's baking soda for the Americans) into the drain. Add a cup of undiluted vinegar. It will bubble and bring up gross things but help clear any clog. Leave for about 15 minutes, then rinse by running the tap on full with hot water for about a minute. You might need to do this a few times but it works well. Then use the hair-catcher thing Carrie recommended.

The orange stuff you see around the drain is very likely mold. Do you never scrub the tub?
But there was no orange stuff yesterday, just appeared this morning. How can it be mold? Doesn't mold take some time to grow?
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But there was no orange stuff yesterday, just appeared this morning. How can it be mold? Doesn't mold take some time to grow?
I'm certainly no expert, but I think it's a steam-generated mold or bacteria as opposed to the black stuff that grows on walls that have gotten wet. I never see the orange stuff outside the bathroom. Easy enough to deal with on tiles or a shower curtain - spray with 1 part bleach to 10 parts water and leave for a few minutes. Rinse well. And of course do not mix bleach and ammonia while playing with your cleaning chemicals.
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If the plumber couldn't clear it correctly for you, I doubt if any chemical concoction will work.. and indeed, any plumber would have cleared a blockage from hair etc. What did the plumber do exactly? We're you there when he worked on the drain? The plumber needs to put rods down to find out where the blockage is and as you're in an apartment it could be anywhere.

First get a reputable plumber to identify where the problem is, and if it isn't your blockage, then you need to get on to your Landlord and tell him/her to fix it ASAP... Or you could get the plumber to fix it and tell them to invoice your LL.
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I buy Drano Power Gel over the border in Germany and it works a treat for clearing out the pipes -- much more effective than any of the products I found in Switzerland.

It's a thick gel that sinks through water, so it will work even where there is standing water in the drain.

I run it down our pipes every couple of months -- it keeps everything flowing smoothly.

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I buy Drano Power Gel over the border in Germany and it works a treat for clearing out the pipes -- much more effective than any of the products I found in Switzerland.

It's a thick gel that sinks through water, so it will work even where there is standing water in the drain.

I run it down our pipes every couple of months -- it keeps everything flowing smoothly.

Thanks for the suggestion. So you do a draino treatment every few months irrespective of whether your bathroom tub drainpipe is clogged or not? Do you have women in your household and have to manage hair accumulation? Does the draino work for hair and do you have a hair catch (see picture above) in your tub drain?
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You have to be somewhat careful there - what's definitely a bad idea is filling the tub with water and hoping the pressure will somehow dislodge the plug. This can actually result in a burst pipe which can be extremely expensive!

How so ? The pressure from 50 or 60 cm head of water is minimal. If a pipe bursts it has not been put together properly as most plumbing is rated to 20 bar or above.
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