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Old 28.11.2013, 21:51
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Renting tips

Latest news from Basel: Tenants in Basel should NOT clean when leaving their apartments. The landlord will take SFR 650 from your deposit anyway, wether you clean or not.
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Old 28.11.2013, 22:00
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Re: Renting tips

Link?

Personal experience, or general fact?
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Old 28.11.2013, 22:16
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Latest news from Basel: Tenants in Basel should NOT clean when leaving their apartments. The landlord will take SFR 650 from your deposit anyway, wether you clean or not.
Isn't that going to put those cleaning companies that offer guaranteed final cleaning out of business?
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Old 01.12.2013, 10:54
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Re: Renting tips

I think he's speaking from a personal experience.
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Old 01.12.2013, 11:43
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Re: Renting tips

So do I- but it would be nice to know the facts...

There is cleaning... and then Swiss cleaning If you had not cleaned at all, the bill would have been much higher, that is for sure. You got away with it cheaply!

But honestly, tell us the story first- how can we comment without more info. I would advise all contacting the agency about exactly what is required and expected- and then stick to the schedule rigidly and ask for inspection and signature.
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Old 01.12.2013, 11:51
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Re: Renting tips

Now paging adrianlondon...

I recall a heated thread a while back that covered this topic. IIRC, according to adrian, many contracts in Basel do include cleaning in the final handover. And since I read it on EF, and since adrian wrote it, it must be true, right?
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Old 01.12.2013, 12:39
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I recall a heated thread a while back that covered this topic. IIRC, according to adrian, many contracts in Basel do include cleaning in the final handover. And since I read it on EF, and since adrian wrote it, it must be true, right?
Our last apartment in baselland was with the cleaning included, well itch an extra fee which if I remember well, it was 800 CHF. I still did give it back with clean kitchen, bathroom and floor. But no deep intense cleaning.
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Interesting. Does anyone know if that is the case in other parts of CH? And if this is mainly for expats? GaryB- was this not written into your contract then?
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Old 01.12.2013, 13:25
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Re: Renting tips

We just signed our lease on Wednesday and were informed that we would have to pay 6chf/m2 for cleaning when we moved out.
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Re: Renting tips

We paid 250 chf at the beginning of the rental for the exit cleaning fee on a 52 sq. m. apt. When we left the apartment we were expected to give it a light cleaning (e.g., sweeping the floors) and leave major features in good condition (e.g., clean oven, no lime scale on toilet).
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Old 01.12.2013, 15:13
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Re: Renting tips

From previous threads, I understand this is normal for Basel and should be written into your contracts. I haven't heard of it in other parts of Switzerland.
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Old 01.12.2013, 17:21
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Hi. In my contract, it states that I pay a fixed cleaning charge (a set amount per square meter) when moving in, which I did. I now do not need to clean the apartment when I move out.

I believe that this is optional rather than compulsory. In other words, my landlord just used the standard/default Basel Stadt tenancy agreement, which contains this clause. But he didn't have to*, and could have instead had his own contract with a different cleaning provision (ie the more typical clean-when-you-move-out-at-your-own-expense one).

* I don't really know if it's compulsory or not, but I do know many people (in BS) that didn't have that clause and had to arrange cleaners when they moved out.
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Hi. In my contract, it states that I pay a fixed cleaning charge (a set amount per square meter) when moving in, which I did. I now do not need to clean the apartment when I move out.

I believe that this is optional rather than compulsory. In other words, my landlord just used the standard/default Basel Stadt tenancy agreement, which contains this clause. But he didn't have to*, and could have instead had his own contract with a different cleaning provision (ie the more typical clean-when-you-move-out-at-your-own-expense one).

* I don't really know if it's compulsory or not, but I do know many people (in BS) that didn't have that clause and had to arrange cleaners when they moved out.
For us, it was no way out and I was more than happy to have it this way. When we will move back, I intend to make sure we have it there too.
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Re: Renting tips

My question is exactly "renting tips" so I hope I'm posting in the right space.

1) For a move in March - April 2016:
a) shall I start the search now?
b) shall I start searching beginning of March?

2) We are family (2 adults, 3 children) shall go for a 4 bedroom + living room apartment? (we are happy with 2 bedroom + living room) but happy to get tips on this so we don't get rejected for applying for too small or apartments that are to big for us.

3) If I offer to pay the rent for 6 or 12 month, can this help my situation?

4) Any tips on how to increase our chances of getting an apartment are welcome.

Thanks!
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My question is exactly "renting tips" so I hope I'm posting in the right space.

1) For a move in March - April 2016:
a) shall I start the search now?
b) shall I start searching beginning of March?

2) We are family (2 adults, 3 children) shall go for a 4 bedroom + living room apartment? (we are happy with 2 bedroom + living room) but happy to get tips on this so we don't get rejected for applying for too small or apartments that are to big for us.

3) If I offer to pay the rent for 6 or 12 month, can this help my situation?

4) Any tips on how to increase our chances of getting an apartment are welcome.

Thanks!
Start NOW. It might not be easy to search from the UK, but competition is something fierce in CH cities (especially Zürich).

As there are some places which only have few moving out days a year (mainly end of Mar, Jun, and Sept) and Zürich sometimes has only 2 dates per year (end of March and end of Sept), you will run into fiercer competition the later you start your search.
If you apply for an apartment I recommend writing a letter detailing your situation (number of kids, work situation, permit situation (this is very important!!!), intent to stay here for x months/years, lack of debt in UK, reference from your current employer, future job in CH).
Be friendly, don't let yourself get trampled but don't be pushy either.

If possible, schedule some viewings during a week or two for which you travel to CH. IMO landlords seem to prefer to see the applicants in person rather than simply seeing their list of supplied documents and a letter.

Make yourself stand out in a positive way. A secure job, secure permit situation, good references and a nice (formal) picture of your family along with a (not long-winded) letter stating your motivation could do the trick.

Landlords do not generally accept payments of multiple months' rent at once to increase choices for a flat, and some might consider it bribery for you to offer to pay more rent than they are asking for. Best thing to do is to prove that you have a certain income (more than 3 times the rent is best, as 3 times the rent is the minimum most landlords want their tenants to earn) and to not complain if they ask you for three months' rent as a deposit (that's the most they're allowed to ask for).

Will add some threads when I get around to finding them later.

Giving up.. (finding an apt with a child in tow)
If you rent a flat/property in ch (on joining the renter's association when renting)
Stained wall, whose responsibility? (on usage of the deposit and importance of joining the renter's association as a tenant)
Is this an elaborate scam? (on paying the deposit for a rented place correctly)
Renting a Room (deposit in cash and other issues) (on deposit payments in cash)
2.5 room in Kreis 4 (Sihlhallenstrasse, Zurich) (on not accepting furniture as a condition for a lease)

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Old 05.01.2016, 20:20
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Re: Renting tips

There's a lot of info in the 'renting' sticky here.
It's old, so maybe some of the links don't work. If you find a broken one and let me know by PM, I'll see if I can find the up to date address.
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