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Hey all,

I'm considering a three year rental agreement on a property but there is a peice of land apparently owned by an old farmer, it looks like he still lives there.

One concern I have is some one buying his property and building on it...

Is there any way to check if people are interested?

Also how does planning permission work here, just how quickly can someone get the right to build. For example if he died next week, how long before building could begin?

Is there a place where I can check if people are requesting planning permission in my area?

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Chat to the farmer. From my experience the farmer near me was very forthcoming and honest with future intentions.
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Re: Planning Permissions

I would suggest you first check with the Gemeinde to see what is the zoning on it. If it is agricultural land, then it is more difficult if not impossible to build on it; on the other hand if it is already zoned as building land, then indeed buyer beware.

I would also get a feel for the local area, i.e. in some high growth areas where old persons and greedy inheritees see chfs, and they and their relatives control the local politics, the landscape could change very quickly.
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Re: Planning Permissions

a) you can object and object and drag it out
b) don't bet on the local Bauamt not rezoning farmland as "Bauland".

I saw a farmer get very rich one afternoon 10 years ago as he sold six pieces of rezoned land for 250k each. How I laughed at him years later when the Bauland was worth thrice the amount (600/square metre -> 1800/square metre).

Talk to your local Bauamt. But this might require German if you want get the real info.
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Before someone can build he has to visualise the project using what is called Baugespann.

http://www.google.ch/search?q=bauges...og&sa=N&tab=wi

If you see those in the plot next do you will know that planning approval is on the way. Now you have to act quick, you can guess the outher dimension of the new build from the Baugespann. For details you have to go to the building office (Bauamt) of your commune, where you can see the detailed plans. If there is no objection from anyone within just 20 days and the new building is seemingly according to the local Zoning and Building regulations it will get approval from the commune.
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Before someone can build he has to visualise the project using what is called Baugespann.

http://www.google.ch/search?q=bauges...og&sa=N&tab=wi

If you see those in the plot next do you will know that planning approval is on the way. Now you have to act quick, you can guess the outher dimension of the new build from the Baugespann. For details you have to go to the building office (Bauamt) of your commune, where you can see the detailed plans. If there is no objection from anyone within 30 days and the new building is seemingly according to the local Zoning and Building regulations it will get approval from the commune.
Indeed ^

Next to my apartment, there are some very old rotten poles from when this process was done using wood not aluminium. That tells you how long the objections can drag on for.

Objections would typically be on denial of light, proximity, increased traffic, etc.
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Objections would typically be on denial of light, proximity, increased traffic, etc.
None of which would carry any weight if coming from a tenant, not an owner.

OP, it's highly unlikely that any construction would commence in the three years of your proposed tenancy. It's all speculative, anyway, since the land is apparently currently Bauland and the farmer is apparently alive and living there.
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