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Good family area?

Can anyone help me?

I am moving to Zurich with my partner and two small children. It is important to us that we are in a pleasant area for families, with good amenities, good schools, parks to take the children and good connections in to the city and around the lake.

If anyone could suggest some areas that I look at this would be great.

I have also had a look on Homegate at living in Baar. However, it is difficult to get a feel as to what it is like for families and how long the commute into the city takes.

Any comments are greatly appreciated.

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Re: Good family area?

Depends what your budget is. With two kids, will they share a room or do they want their own? You would be looking for a 4 or 4.5 room flat for a shared room or a 5 - 5.5 room flat if they want their own rooms.

You can live in the Seefeld area, which is popular with families and has good amenities and part with best part of CHF 4500 per month or you can move into one of the suburbs (check out Adliswil, Rüschlikon, Thalwil down the silver coast or Kusnacht, Erlenbach, Herrliberg on the gold coast) and pay a similar amount.

Looking at the north of the city, you might find something cheaper.

How old are your kids?
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Re: Good family area?

Budget is up to 4K. Ideally we would like 4.5 rooms minimum.

The children are only 18 months.

I understand that a lot of rents are apartments which is why I would like to be within walking distance of some parks. Plus I have seen on the internet a lot of parks where families are grilling/BBQ food etc which looks fantastic in the Summer. Do you know where these places tend to be or is it like this all over the city in the summer?

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Old 04.04.2014, 15:27
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Re: Good family area?

On the other hand you can get way with paying a lot less than 4500 in the areas already mentioned. It takes a bit of luck but it's definitely possible (we do it! We've got half a very old house with a garden).

We're in Meilen, which is a really lovely area and a great community. I work at home (teaching) so my daughter walks to all her activities, friends etc by herself. It's 15 minutes by train to Stadelhofen and right on the lake with lots of forest area a short walk away.

We lived in the city first, Seefeld, and that was also great. So convenient for pubic transport, the lake etc. We also paid a lot less than 4500 for a 4.5 apartment when we were there, but of course this depends on what is available. Despite initial reluctance I'm glad we moved to Meilen as it gives my daughter a lot more freedom of movement (plus I can drag my kayak down to the lake and get away from everything and everyone when the weather's nice).

I need to go into town regularly, though, to get my city fix, but on the whole it was a great move out of the city. Besides, depending on where you're coming from, it's likely you would have had a bigger commute while still living in a city. This was definitely the case for us had we stayed in Australia. This way, we feel like we're almost in the country (cows, vineyards, forest etc) but still close enough my husband can ride his bicycle to work.
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On the other hand you can get way with paying a lot less than 4500 in the areas already mentioned. It takes a bit of luck but it's definitely possible (we do it! We've got half a very old house with a garden).

We're in Meilen, which is a really lovely area and a great community. I work at home (teaching) so my daughter walks to all her activities, friends etc by herself. It's 15 minutes by train to Stadelhofen and right on the lake with lots of forest area a short walk away.

We lived in the city first, Seefeld, and that was also great. So convenient for pubic transport, the lake etc. We also paid a lot less than 4500 for a 4.5 apartment when we were there, but of course this depends on what is available. Despite initial reluctance I'm glad we moved to Meilen as it gives my daughter a lot more freedom of movement (plus I can drag my kayak down to the lake and get away from everything and everyone when the weather's nice).

I need to go into town regularly, though, to get my city fix, but on the whole it was a great move out of the city. Besides, depending on where you're coming from, it's likely you would have had a bigger commute while still living in a city. This was definitely the case for us had we stayed in Australia. This way, we feel like we're almost in the country (cows, vineyards, forest etc) but still close enough my husband can ride his bicycle to work.

I will definitely take a look at this area then. What is the local tax rate like? I assume that Stadelhofen is in the City? If not how long does it take to get to the HB?

Do you have any thoughts/comments on Baar?
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Re: Good family area?

I don't know about living in Baar at all.

I'm not sure what the tax rate is in Meilen but I think it's lower than in Zurich, although I'm sure someone else will correct me if I'm wrong. We really didn't take this in to consideration when we moved. Not because we're millionaires but because we wanted to choose based on lifestyle, while still not paying a huge amount of rent. Our budget was definitely not even anywhere near the 4000 mark.

Stadelhofen is in the city, at the top of the lake, and a 2 minute train ride to HB, although you can easily walk from Stadelhofen to HB.


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My daughter (9 years old) is in the local school and walks there every day, although I also teach a few kids who are picked up by bus and taken to the nearest international school. But I am very glad we went local for school, as it really helps my daughter (and us as well) to integrate into the community.

We don't have a car but get around very easily by train, bike etc, and use a mobility car (a car-sharing operation) when we want to go further afield. The train from the city goes to Rapperswil at the other end of the lake, and from there there are great connections to just about everywhere.

There is quite a large English-speaking community, but not an expat community, in the sense that everyone is short term. I would say it's more the opposite, with the kids of all the people I know in local school, and most people intending to stay long term.

I think the best thing you can do is come and look around all the areas on your list so you can at least make some first impressions.

There are so many great areas to live, both in the city and outside of it.
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Re: Good family area?

We have lived in Baar for nearly 3 years and we like it!
The train takes about 25 into Zurich HB.
I have an 8 year old who is in the local school, and loves it. She has lots of friends living locally and knows her way round the town quite well!.
It is a smallish town, but has most of the everyday shops that you need and Zug is 5 minutes drive away (or 5 minutes on the train!)
There is no lake, but Cham Villette Park is 10 mins (car or train) and there are plenty of playgrounds around.
It has been a good move for our family down to Baar, if you have any other questions please ask and I'll try and answer them!
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... you can move into one of the suburbs (check out Adliswil, Rüschlikon, Thalwil down the silver coast or Kusnacht, Erlenbach, Herrliberg on the gold coast) and pay a similar amount.
The majority, if not all, the places you have mentioned are not suburbs but villages - the only one that might be one is Adliswil ( I think). They each have their own local government, local tax structure etc.
 

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