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Old 24.04.2014, 11:25
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Sub Letting, a Warning...

Louis Bremer was living in Zurich & rented a 2 room apartment in the center of Bern for the summer of 2013, and afterwards he offered it to friends and later he used AirBnB.

AirBnB offered him a professional photographer and a certificate of authenticity. Unfortunately by accepting their offer he brought about his downfall, as the owner found out that he was sub letting his Fr 1'200 per month rented apartment for Fr 100 per night. He received his contracted notice to quit as he was sub-letting without the landlord's knowledge, and his deposit was later returned. All legal and as per the contract.

Housing experts claim this was the first time they had heard of such a thing,

http://www.derbund.ch/wirtschaft/unt...story/28796376

Because many EF people here are sub-letting their apartments, I thought it was a good reminder, to be careful. You should always inform the landlord about changes before they happen: he cannot stop this without a good reason, but he does need to know!
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Old 24.04.2014, 13:10
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Re: Sub Letting, a Warning...

I do know a couple of people who sublet their apartments without a hitch but I don't know anyone who has registered with Air B&B in order to let out their apartment for short stays. Maybe having a series of strangers in and out of an apartment is a whole different kettle of fish for landlords. I know ours would never agree to that. And I don't think I'd be too happy as a renter having strangers going in and out of the building all the time.
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Old 24.04.2014, 13:11
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Re: Sub Letting, a Warning...

I'm so going to do this with my tenant when he moves out!

Great idea!
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Re: Sub Letting, a Warning...

Another case in Romandie last year, where someone who sublet with the permission of the owner, but at a much higher price than he declared to owner. Owner found out and took him to court, and he had to repay the excess he charged for a period of several years- ouch.

My main worry with AirnB would be invalidating insurance in case of major damage. Surely a household insurance is for you and your guests- but not for business use.
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Re: Sub Letting, a Warning...

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Housing experts claim this was the first time they had heard of such a thing,

http://www.derbund.ch/wirtschaft/unt...story/28796376

Because many EF people here are sub-letting their apartments, I thought it was a good reminder, to be careful. You should always inform the landlord about changes before they happen: he cannot stop this without a good reason, but he does need to know!
I like this story because in my books the HouseLord acted in a reasonable manor, giving appropriate notice and the tenant received back his deposit.

A courtesy the tenant did not give the Landlord was to discuss it with him. Not necessarily so but if he had, there may have been a different amicably outcome.

As he did not discuss with the House Lord leads me to suspect he did not discuss with the other tenants in the same block. Although many of us may not be best friends with other tenants usually people understand each other and manage to get along.

We had a situation in London, where another tenant, neighbour not only sub let one room, but another room he had beds where he rented, not sure on a daily basis or something. One day I found this man trying to open my front door, as heard the key in my lock, went to investigate and the chap, quickly said he was in the wrong street & disappeared pronto, someone we realised was from that flat . Took the landlord of that flat a long time to do anything about it.

Here in Switzerland, it is often common to have communal storage areas & have often noticed sometimes people might have a stock of wine/spirits/beers & they do so because of their confidence of the other tenants in the block. We have other items stored there and have never felt the need to lock them up. If I happen to be around when the person comes to Read the Meters, I let them in and keep a distant watch until they go.
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My main worry with AirnB would be invalidating insurance in case of major damage. Surely a household insurance is for you and your guests- but not for business use.
According to the newspaper article, AirBnB cover up to €700,000 of damages -->> denn Airbnb deckt Schäden bis 700 000 Euro
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