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Flight path in Geneva

House in England finally sold (wish we'd lived in London or the South, but as it was not the case...), we should be able to afford a broom cupboard or a garden shed in Geneva! However, even living in a garden shed, we don't want to be under the flight path. I've heard that in Versoix for example, there are neighbourhoods affected by the noise and others not at all.

Does anyone have a list/map of places to avoid at all cost? Recommendations?

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Re: Flight path in Geneva

Depending on the wind, planes also come in from further east (crossing the lake over Collonge-Bellerive), but don't worry, no-one can afford to buy there!
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Depending on the wind, planes also come in from further east (crossing the lake over Collonge-Bellerive), but don't worry, no-one can afford to buy there!

Certainly not me! However, I don't recall seeing any plane going over Rive Gauche at low altitude. I do go swimming in Hermance, though, and it is weird how the water carries the noise across when a plane flies over Versoix.
What worries me is that we were invited at some friends once in Versoix and the noise from the planes made the conversation at times impossible. Yet they had a lovely house.
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Re: Flight path in Geneva

I remember about five years ago the possible flight paths were altered, allowing for flights to pass over Collonge-Bellerive if the wind made it necessary, up to that point that area had been 'safe' and the residents kicked up a hell of a fuss; mostly because they claimed it would affect property values.
Basically the same reasoning behind the fight they're conducting over the proposed Rade crossing which would start from there.
It doesn't happen often, but it can.

The worse areas though are definitely Vernier, Versoix, possibly around Collex-Bossy, and I've heard Aire-la-Ville is pretty bad too.
The planes basically fly along the Rhone valley or cross over the Jura north of Geneva unless the wind if from the 'wrong' direction.

When we first moved to Geneva friends had a wonderful 4-bed HLM in Vernier for less than we were paying for a private 2-bed in Carouge; but it was directly under the approach route and at that point the planes are really low; every five minutes or so you simply had to stop talking until the plane had gone over!
Of course in those days the last plane landed just after ten pm and the last one out (Bahrain if I recall correctly) left just after. So there was peace until around seven the following morning!

Best advice might simply be to pick a few areas you like and spend an hour or two sitting on a park bench listening!
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Re: Flight path in Geneva

I lived in Vernier for less than a year. The noise was terrible, but what i found worse was the smell of the fuel. It really got to me, giving me headaches and nausea and a bad cough.

I was glad to get away from there.
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Re: Flight path in Geneva

Yeah, have friends in Vernier, would avoid. On the positive side, last I knew they were getting new windows subsidised due to air traffic noise.

But worse than Venier in my opinion is Bellevue/Genthod region. Just terrible.

Put it this way, if you are looking for houses in these areas and the price seems too good to be true, walk away, the air traffic or similar will likely be in play. When house hunting, saw a beautiful house, visited it, the garden was about 5 m from train tracks and the house not much further. Real estate agent had to stop speaking every time a train went through while in the house with all windows closed.
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Re: Flight path in Geneva

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House in England finally sold (wish we'd lived in London or the South, but as it was not the case...), we should be able to afford a broom cupboard or a garden shed in Geneva! However, even living in a garden shed, we don't want to be under the flight path. I've heard that in Versoix for example, there are neighbourhoods affected by the noise and others not at all.

Does anyone have a list/map of places to avoid at all cost? Recommendations?
Why not live in France? We do, and love it, especially as it is less expensive.
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Why not live in France? We do, and love it, especially as it is less expensive.
NOt if you've been following Swiss politics lately. On retirement, perhaps, but not while still working in Geneva.
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Re: Flight path in Geneva

Sorry for resurrecting this post, but what do you mean by the latest Swiss politics? What does Switzerland do, in order to prevent people who work in Geneva, from living in France?

My second question would be: How about the area of Nyon? Can the sound of planes be heard there? If so, is it too intensive, and what about the air in Nyon? When I visited Versoix last time, my eyes were burning from the plane fuel...
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Re: Flight path in Geneva

This is a good sight to find out aviation info.
http://www.vacc.ch/en/airports_and_charts/LSGG


Specifically - take a look at the IFR approach and departure plates (PDF files) which overlay the normal paths and altitude of aircraft arriving and departing.


the site also states,"RWY 23* in use for arrivals and departures with tailwind components up to 4 kts. Otherwise, RWY 05 will be used."


FYI: RWY 23 will have a bearing of 230 and Runway 5 will have a bearing of 050 which means on most days, flights are arriving from the northeast on a heading of 230 and departing to the southwest on a heading of 230 (initially)


and here is another source - not as detailed:


https://skyvector.com/airport/LSGG/Geneve-Airport




as someone mentioned - best way to be sure is go to the areas you are interested in on a couple different days, look and listen.
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