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Old 20.08.2014, 10:59
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Re: Fire safety regulations & law in apartment block?

I have posted a page from the fire regulation from the link posted by Helm, highlighting the pertinent paragraph. I have also attached a polite, accompanying sign in both English and German in the hopes that the other 7 local residents (There are only 8 apartments in the block) will be able to listen to reason.

I will keep you posted, however I am less than hopeful of an amicable solution here, and half expect the signs to either have been taken down, or the door still double locked for the foreseeable future.
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Re: Fire safety regulations & law in apartment block?

I never experienced the problems with the doors - but I am surprised at the complete lack of smoke/fire detectors in such buildings, considering the fact (amongst other things) that the basement is full of cars, an oil tank is built into the building... We have installed smoke alarms on each level in our house.

I guess the only thing that will fix this is a change in the law requiring action to be taken, as was the case with the gas safety laws in the UK. Sadly though, it can be the case that such laws are only created after accidents and deaths have happened.

Otherwise, our office building only had a fire alarm system retrofitted in 2002. Despite this monumental improvement in respect of our safety and well-being, there were many complaints (mainly from the nationalities who are famously sensitive to noise) about the noise during the annual testing, leading to one suggestion that somebody writes an application that sends a 'FIRE!' warning on the users' screens...

There are no emergency lights either; one morning when it was dark, there was a complete power failure. The stairwells were pitch black! We had to stumble down the stairs using the light from our mobile phones. Hardly optimum if a panic situation develops. Despite complaining (from me), emergency lights have still not been fitted.
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Re: Fire safety regulations & law in apartment block?

Have the same situation at my place. I wondered what would happen in the event of a fire as it is the only way in and out that could possibly not need a key, all other exits need a key.
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Re: Fire safety regulations & law in apartment block?

Friends of mine live on the fourth floor in modern 4 story small apartment block built about 30 years ago in a village near Zurich.
All of the residents are foreign nationals.

Compared to the UK, where I own letting property, there do not appear to be any fire regulations in place in this property.
There is no fire escape.
There are no smoke or heat detectors either in their apartment or on the stairs.
There are no fire doors in the apartment and none of the doors have self-closing mechanism.
In addition there are a couple of motor scooters stored in the basement, which is an extreme fire hazard and there is not a door on the basement room which leads directly to the stairs and there is even a flammable sofa wedged into the bottom of the stairs at basement level.

In my opinion this modern property is a death trap waiting to happen in the event of smoke in the stairwell or worse still in an individual apartment.

I welcome your member's comments.

I am sure, knowing Switzerland as I do, that fire regulations are stricter here than in the UK
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Re: Fire safety regulations & law in apartment block?

Chances are someone got rid of their sofa by dumping it in the stairwell and nobody cares enough to get it removed.

At least in theory the stairwell must be kept "naked" at all times as that's the escape route. "Naked" meaning that no goods can be deposited (yes, most renters use them for their shoes, perhaps other stuff as well, but that's neither here nor there).

The sofa definitely runs against that. Considering that, for instance, no gas containers can be stored underground or in the basement, the motorised vehicles probably must be removed as well once someone complains.
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Old 01.04.2019, 19:26
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Re: Fire safety regulations & law in apartment block?

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Friends of mine live on the fourth floor in modern 4 story small apartment block built about 30 years ago in a village near Zurich.
All of the residents are foreign nationals.

Compared to the UK, where I own letting property, there do not appear to be any fire regulations in place in this property.
There is no fire escape.
There are no smoke or heat detectors either in their apartment or on the stairs.
There are no fire doors in the apartment and none of the doors have self-closing mechanism.
In addition there are a couple of motor scooters stored in the basement, which is an extreme fire hazard and there is not a door on the basement room which leads directly to the stairs and there is even a flammable sofa wedged into the bottom of the stairs at basement level.

In my opinion this modern property is a death trap waiting to happen in the event of smoke in the stairwell or worse still in an individual apartment.

I welcome your member's comments.

I am sure, knowing Switzerland as I do, that fire regulations are stricter here than in the UK
How about you install heat/smoke detectors in your apartment? Easy to do

Did you inform the landlord on the stuff in the basement? Or the sofa?

And do you mean to tell me that every apartment in the UK has all the above no apartment in Switzerland has?

I do remember a big fire some time ago.....Not in Switzerland
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Friends of mine live on the fourth floor in modern 4 story small apartment block built about 30 years ago in a village near Zurich.
All of the residents are foreign nationals.

Compared to the UK, where I own letting property, there do not appear to be any fire regulations in place in this property.
There is no fire escape.
There are no smoke or heat detectors either in their apartment or on the stairs.
There are no fire doors in the apartment and none of the doors have self-closing mechanism.
In addition there are a couple of motor scooters stored in the basement, which is an extreme fire hazard and there is not a door on the basement room which leads directly to the stairs and there is even a flammable sofa wedged into the bottom of the stairs at basement level.

In my opinion this modern property is a death trap waiting to happen in the event of smoke in the stairwell or worse still in an individual apartment.

I welcome your member's comments.

I am sure, knowing Switzerland as I do, that fire regulations are stricter here than in the UK



...you obviously don't know Switzerland as well as you think you do
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