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Cost of fitting a plug socket

Perhaps I have just been unlucky but all Swiss apartments seem to have far too few plug sockets and the ones that are fitted (a) are all in the wrong place, and (b) donít always work (thereís always a triple one where one of the sockets never works).

We have bought an apartment recently where this certainly applies. Fearful of the cost of getting this sorted out properly (i.e. lots of new sockets all over the place), we have just had an electrician in to quote for fitting one new socket. This shouldnít be complicated as near where we want it, is one of those plastic plates behind which there are lots of wires (you will have realised by now that Iím not very technical).

He came last week and said it would be about two hours work, and he would e-mail us a quote. This has yet to arrive.

Anyone care to take a shot at what the price will be? I will post the answer when I know.
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Re: Cost of fitting a plug socket

352 chf
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Old 02.11.2014, 23:09
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Re: Cost of fitting a plug socket

I can't be bothered sorting through all the stupid font codes to quote you properly, but the one socket in the triple that doesn't work is likely to be controlled by one of the "light" switches.
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Re: Cost of fitting a plug socket

When the electrician quotes 2 hours, this means travel time, at least that is how it works with our electrician.
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Old 02.11.2014, 23:42
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Re: Cost of fitting a plug socket

200 labour
150 parts
28 MWST

Total: 378
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Old 02.11.2014, 23:46
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Tom's cheaper. I'm not sure he's filling in his VAT returns...
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Tom's cheaper. I'm not sure he's filling in his VAT returns...
I don't need to pay for a brand new Mercedes van.
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I don't need to pay for a brand new Mercedes van.

No reason to pass on your saving
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This shouldn’t be complicated as near where we want it, is one of those plastic plates behind which there are lots of wires (you will have realised by now that I’m not very technical).
you are correct, "This shouldn't be complicated" however you have to understand that electrical wiring must be done to legal code. There are certain types of wires and a certain way to be installed which is written in law. disregarding these standards could spark electrical fires and worst...

a few things to keep in mind: one type of wires are used for lights, another for outlets. therefore the electrician must first figure out which wires come from which fuse in order to ensure that the fuse and the wire will not be overloaded. an overloaded wire will melt and start a fire, and an overloaded fuse will flip off every time you plug turn on an electric device.

after he figures out the wires he must pull new wires from one spot to the spot where you want to have the new outlet. sometimes this will might require holes in the wall or through the wall... It could end up very expensive or very cheap depending on the wiring diagram...

My guess for the price 350 to 1500

also, mirfield mentioned that "the one socket in the triple that doesn't work is likely to be controlled by one of the "light" switches."

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Old 03.11.2014, 09:44
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Re: Cost of fitting a plug socket

Mirfield has a good explanation for the apparent failure of the single sockets. The picture below gives a clue.
You of course know of the cheap and nasty solution to get more sockets ? . . .
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Re: Cost of fitting a plug socket

Here are my photos of mirfield's comment about the "light switch" plug. There are two versions. The old T12 triple plug and the new T13 (recessed). You will see the little black coding that is used in CH.

My estimate is CHF 525 to add/move a plug.
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Old 03.11.2014, 10:04
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Re: Cost of fitting a plug socket

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Both wrong. He will also charge for going to the property to give an estimate.
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you are correct, "This shouldn't be complicated" however you have to understand that electrical wiring must be done to legal code. There are certain types of wires and a certain way to be installed which is written in law. disregarding these standards could spark electrical fires and worst...

a few things to keep in mind: one type of wires are used for lights, another for outlets. therefore the electrician must first figure out which wires come from which fuse in order to ensure that the fuse and the wire will not be overloaded. an overloaded wire will melt and start a fire, and an overloaded fuse will flip off every time you plug turn on an electric device.
Absolutely not true in Switzerland. They both come off the same circuits.

The U.K, on the other hand, has a separate lighting circuit and a ring-main for sockets.
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Old 03.11.2014, 10:25
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Absolutely not true in Switzerland. They both come off the same circuits.

The U.K, on the other hand, has a separate lighting circuit and a ring-main for sockets.
The only thing worth noting is that in Verbier's pictures the bottom left socket is "switched" to the light switch. Either useful or not!
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The only thing worth noting is that in Verbier's pictures the bottom left socket is "switched" to the light switch. Either useful or not!
Indeed there is an EXTRA wire that runs from the light switch to that outlet/plug that is "switched".
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Re: Cost of fitting a plug socket

I finally got the quote.


I am pleased (but rather surprised) to report that the total bill comes to CHF252.10.


He's even given me a 3% discount.


Perhaps electricians in the Berner Oberland are cheaper than the rest of Switzerland.


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Old 17.11.2014, 20:35
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I finally got the quote.


I am pleased (but rather surprised) to report that the total bill comes to CHF252.10.


He's even given me a 3% discount.


Perhaps electricians in the Berner Oberland are cheaper than the rest of Switzerland.


No, but maybe just a bit slower.
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Old 17.11.2014, 20:39
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I finally got the quote.


I am pleased (but rather surprised) to report that the total bill comes to CHF252.10.


He's even given me a 3% discount.


Perhaps electricians in the Berner Oberland are cheaper than the rest of Switzerland.


...... it's only a quote. The final bill will be +50% more - how do I claim my prize?
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Old 17.11.2014, 21:34
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He's even given me a 3% discount.
Why even bother with something like that? I mean, sure, take every discount you can get, but to this day I do not get the thinking behind abysmal discounts in Switzerland.

We get flyers from the local optician at the office, where they try to tempt us with a *gasp* 5% discount on the next set of glasses!

Bloody hell Ueli, you are really pushing some aggressive business there! Jeff Bezos' testicles have shriveled and retreated all the way up his throat just at the sheer retail assault you are laying down. Black friday is is chickenshit compared to this offer. Let me ditch my existing optician who knows exactly what I want and move to a brand new one because this offer is a once in a lifetime opportunity!
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Re: Cost of fitting a plug socket

I renewed my xc ski hire for the season. If I paid before end September I would get a 2% discount! Otherwise I'd need to pay 102 instead of 100 CHF.

Anyway, I paid end of October (I forgot) and only paid 100. Not been sued yet.
 




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