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Re: Kitchen aid vs. kennwood

I've got a Bosch MUM 86 (recently relaunched as Maxximum).
It's great, very powerful (1600W) and very heavy (13kg).
The bowl is big enough (5.4l) and it copes with 2kg of heavy bread-dough easily.
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Re: Kitchen aid vs. kennwood

if your kitchen aid has been gathering dust..

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Re: Kitchen aid vs. kennwood

I saw this! Too funny. But no, not really. I decided to only replace the kitchen aid when it dies.
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Re: Kitchen aid vs. kennwood

Anyone after a cheap option, I saw this in Galaxus:

https://www.galaxus.ch/de/s2/product...?tagIds=41-505

main downside is that it has a plastic bowl not a stainless steel one (which you can get as an accessory for about the same price as this machine. ridiculous!)

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Re: Kitchen aid vs. kennwood

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Anyone after a cheap option, I saw this in Galaxus:

https://www.galaxus.ch/de/s2/product...?tagIds=41-505

main downside is that it has a plastic bowl not a stainless steel one. which you can get as an accessory for about the same price as this machine. ridiculous!
Also, it's only 500W. My MUM86 (and its successor, the MaxxiMUM) has 1600.
It probably also has a couple of cost-savings that aren't apparent on first look....
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Also, it's only 500W. My MUM86 (and its successor, the MaxxiMUM) has 1600.
It probably also has a couple of cost-savings that aren't apparent on first look....
yes, clearly it's doesn't have the same specifications of the machines which cost 9x the price - but I wouldn't say that 500W of power is any kind of serious limitation.
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Re: Kitchen aid vs. kennwood

The 500W isn't the biggest problem.
It's often the drive train that is rather weak.
It's probably OK, if you never put heavy dough in it.
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I've got a Bosch MUM 86 (recently relaunched as Maxximum).
It's great, very powerful (1600W) and very heavy (13kg).
The bowl is big enough (5.4l) and it copes with 2kg of heavy bread-dough easily.
that's great if you have 8 children...
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Old 10.11.2016, 16:19
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We've got a handheld whisk and a grinder.

It's not that we don't cook, it's just that a mixer would probably gather dust in a cupboard.

This week:
I made pesto with a pestle and mortar.
Tahini with the grinder.
The kids made the christmas cake and pudding and cookies by hand.
As this thread has come alive this week.

I'm going to take back what I said...a bit.

We're going to get a stand mixer - probably a Kenwood. People are right - some things take too long with a handheld mixer and one could do other things whilst waiting.

Still, we used the pestle and mortar this week for a curry and the Christmas pudding was stirred by hand!
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that's great if you have 8 children...

Then, I'd get a Häussler Alpha or even an SP:

https://www.backdorf.de/index.php?Do...ading-machines
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The 500W isn't the biggest problem.
It's often the drive train that is rather weak.
It's probably OK, if you never put heavy dough in it.
could be, but i've seen no evidence that the drive train is any different from the higher end models.
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Re: Kitchen aid vs. kennwood

Just my opinion on the Kenwood/KitchenAid debate...

I chose the KitchenAid and bought it on sale at Globus for around 499chf 3 years ago - and yes I did no research and just liked the look of it

After about 7 months the handle broke on the speed arm and will not turn off, so I have an elastic band on it constantly so I can turn the speed down/off.
I use it at least once per week but mostly more for baking bread/dough and cakes, I wish i had done more research!

And just to add insult to injury I also got the KitchenAid food processor (before the stand mixer broke) with the stickers you collect from Coop - I think I only paid 200chf or something...well that broke too the little plastic thing that clicks the lid to the handle , wouldn't 'click' luckily my husband is an engineer and with a chefs blow torch and a tooth pick he fixed it

So given the chance (which is not looking likely) I would definitely go with a Kenwood!!
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could be, but i've seen no evidence that the drive train is any different from the higher end models.
The one you mentioned is 3.8 kg, the MaxxiMUM is 12.something.
That's not only the bigger, metal bowl (930-ish grams on my MUM86) ;-)

Though, my mother has an equally heavy Chinese knock-off that sounds like a jet-engine when it runs full-speed and looks about as robust as a Thai Tuk-Tuk.
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The one you mentioned is 3.8 kg, the MaxxiMUM is 12.something.
That's not only the bigger, metal bowl (930-ish grams on my MUM86) ;-)

Though, my mother has an equally heavy Chinese knock-off that sounds like a jet-engine when it runs full-speed and looks about as robust as a Thai Tuk-Tuk.
i guess 2kg is for the bowl and extra accessories

this version is 10kg:

https://www.galaxus.ch/de/s2/product...?tagIds=41-505
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Re: Kitchen Aid vs. Kenwood

Which? Consumer Association magazine in the UK. rates the Bosch top end and Kenwood models best.
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Re: Kitchen Aid vs. Kenwood

Kenwood, always over kitchen aid.

My KM 800 is now around ~16/17 years of age and is used a lot ; I also had my own small party catering service over a few years,where it also came in handy and had to work hard .

It is still running smoothly and as powerful as ever, whilst a few friends of mine who went for stylish Kitchen Aid machines had to replace them already once if not twice (in one case). The only thing I had to replace 2 years ago, was the grater and slicer unit (Raffelwerk) because the material got tired and a little bit broke off, thus making it stuck and unworkable. I got a new one from Kenwood at half price because of that, great customer service too.
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Re: Kitchen Aid vs. Kenwood

I've got Kenwood Major Chef for over 5 years now. Very happy with it. Got it with the advice from a professional chef, who could compare it with Vorwerk and Kitchen Aid. Kitchen Aid has been disqualified as cheap plastic and Vorwerk is sold as a whole package with all the appliances and very expensive, whilst with Kenwood you could go and bye add-ons step by step as needed.
Very happy with it. Very.
Also I've met someone who has got 2 Kenwoods already (25 y.o, 50 y.o. as a heritage from mom - both working) and he has got a third one (with induction element) because it is so great.
As far as I have got one of those, I do notice them quite often in the restaurant kitchens. Seems to be a sturdy and reliable machine.
Mine got to grind a knife once - knife got quite brushed, but the machine seemed not to notice it.
Mine criteria were: easy to clean, powerful enough for any job, good for any quantities. I've got them all. Big bowl is made in a way to whisk just one 1 egg and not getting smeared all over.
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