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We sold our house in Belgium prior moving to Switzerland. The people who ended up buying it were the ones complaing about the size of the living room, the size of the garden etc etc.

I like to believe that those who complain the most probably like it the most
Negatives should always be seen as buying signals.
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Re: Selling a cutie pie house but ...

Your region is Geneva but selling a house in geneva doesn't add up. You are probably outside of Geneva. Demand is still string in the region but the market has indeed slowed down. On top of that there are still many building sites to build even more. On a macro level you should be good as further growth in jobs in the region is expected. On micro level location is everything.

The conurbation around Geneva has a population of roughly 900,000 and extends into two French départements (Haute-Savoie and Ain) as well as the Swiss cantons of Geneva and Vaud. More than 400,000 jobs are located in the region.

In demographic terms, it is the fifth fastest-growing region in Europe. By 2030, a further 200,000 inhabitants and 100,000 jobs are expected to be created here.
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Your region is Geneva but selling a house in geneva doesn't add up. You are probably outside of Geneva. Demand is still string in the region but the market has indeed slowed down. On top of that there are still many building sites to build even more. On a macro level you should be good as further growth in jobs in the region is expected. On micro level location is everything.

The conurbation around Geneva has a population of roughly 900,000 and extends into two French départements (Haute-Savoie and Ain) as well as the Swiss cantons of Geneva and Vaud. More than 400,000 jobs are located in the region.

In demographic terms, it is the fifth fastest-growing region in Europe. By 2030, a further 200,000 inhabitants and 100,000 jobs are expected to be created here.
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… but there’s no room for furniture (even though we were perfectly comfortable with 4 of us for 15 years & oddly enough we have got furniture!)
This is not as bizzarre as it sounds. My parents had, well still have, some antique furniture items that are family heirlooms and that they would under no conditions consider parting with. One of them is an enormously long sideboard and whenever they looked at a house the first thing they checked was whether there was a wall long enough to put it against. They turned down many otherwise beautiful houses because of this.

The estate agencies were tragically unable to pre-filter houses on this criterium.
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Old 19.12.2014, 16:33
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Re: Selling a cutie pie house but ...

Price price price.

Sold our house in 2012 within practically 2 days of it coming on the market (and could have had a bidding auction but due to personal circumstances at the time were more keen to secure a buyer than to squeeze an extra few thousand francs out of them).

Consulted 3 agents as to price. Their valuation models were laughable. Usually gave a variation of some 30%. Well if its that imprecise, I think all of us can be valuers. Perused the market myself, got comparables, decided how much we needed to move on, then stuck the property up for sale on Homegate with oodles of photos, plans and a 4 page property particulars pdf.

This was on Christmas Eve morning. By 5pm Christmas Eve had so many interested viewings that we held an open house on 27th and by close of play 27th it was sold.

It was not in a property hot spot - just a well priced, modern, in need of no maintenance work, tidy property.

So price, price and price again. Plus a little bit of good presentation skills and a modest fee to homegate to advertise it for you. Plus when someone makes an offer, ask them for confirmation from their bank that they agree to the mortgage. No point in moving ahead to contracts until this vital point is dealt with. Better still find the miraculous buyer who needs no mortgage and can produce a letter to the bank to that effect.

Good luck. It was stressful even though it went so well so I can only imagine how frustrating it is when it is going badly.
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Re: Selling a cutie pie house but ...

Update ... we now have a friend of a friend who is offering to "come & clean out the bad vibes" so the house will sell. Of course we'd be paying for this "service".
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Re: Selling a cutie pie house but ...

You reduced it by 200,000 and it's still not selling?

A. The price is too high
B. People are suspicious as to why you dropped the price by that much
C. The marketing is all wrong
D. That house now has a notorious reputation
D. The price is still too high

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Update ... we now have a friend of a friend who is offering to "come & clean out the bad vibes" so the house will sell. Of course we'd be paying for this "service".
I'll do the same at a lower price.
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Re: Selling a cutie pie house but ...

Thank you for your advice.
A. The price is set based on the area in line with the other properties available in the area.
B. The price has dropped in line with the price drop of the general market.
C. On the assumption that trained professionals should know what they are doing & are paid to do it, plus the fact that there is competition as it is not placed with just one agency but with 3 who have different styles, there's not much we can do apart from getting femen to be photographed in front of the house.
D. Yes, maybe it is disadvantaged by the continual stream of call girls & drug addicts lying around on the pavement outside and the witches with their cauldrons cooking babies in the garden.
D. If selling it off cheaper than flats which are smaller, have no garden & a lot less parking the the same area, there has to be some sort of limit as to how low you go. If it is priced as bargain basement sub-standard crap, no one will buy it thinking there is a problem with it, or we're divorced, someone had died or we're about to go bankrupt.

There are people who appreciate it. Unfortunately we seem to be idiot magnets.
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Update ... we now have a friend of a friend who is offering to "come & clean out the bad vibes" so the house will sell. Of course we'd be paying for this "service".
You expect to get services for free?
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Old 26.01.2015, 12:15
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I'll do the same at a lower price.
We in same business, best we start an association "Suisse Romande for Bad Vibes", that way we can get cartel going too

You can be Prez to start off with
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Don't use an estate agent. They are useless world-wide, and more so here and the charge 3%!

We sold within 3 days using homegate.ch. We produced a PDF info sheet of the house in English and German to hand out. We selected a viewing day and then spaced each viewing 1 hour apart. So many called that it became half an hour apart. We also made sure they removed their shoes at the front door - most did this without asking.

The ad appeared on homgate on the Monday and viewing was Tuesday and the offer came on Wednesday. As agreed we removed the ad and they paid CHF20,000 deposit.

BUT the house was competitively priced in a desirable area, fulfilling many criteria like schools nearby, not road noise etc. You may need to reconsider the price...
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Thank you for your advice.
A. The price is set based on the area in line with the other properties available in the area.
B. The price has dropped in line with the price drop of the general market.
Have you been to look at these other properties? It may be that there are many other properties at around the same price but with better properties which will kill off the chances of your own property selling.
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You reduced it by 200,000 and it's still not selling?

A. The price is too high
B. People are suspicious as to why you dropped the price by that much
C. The marketing is all wrong
D. That house now has a notorious reputation
D. The price is still too high

Good luck.
Comparis has a historic price comparison function.
Plus people who are interested in buying can get an mail sent every time a new property gets advertised.
This way, any open-market price drops like OPs will immediately be visible.

The number of properties in a target-area that match the size, age and budget one is interested in is usually (very) finite. As such, it's easy to remember each and every one that comes on sale.
I know I do. I also usually have a hunch whether a property will sell for a given price.
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Re: Selling a cutie pie house but ...

BTW in case anyone is interested in having their property cleansed, it apparently costs chf 1,000 (or 800 if you don't want rods of copper stuck in the garden).
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BTW in case anyone is interested in having their property cleansed, it apparently costs chf 1,000 (or 800 if you don't want rods of copper stuck in the garden).
I will do it for 600.

Furthermore, I can do it remotely without having to visit the site.
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Re: Selling a cutie pie house but ...

One thing that can make a difference is the decoration and personal stamp in your house if reduction etc has not made a difference. Also having a de-clutter.

Simple things like changing bed coverings to all white, making the house a bit more neutral, removing lots of photos etc can make a huge difference.
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Re: Selling a cutie pie house but ...

It's been repainted Swiss white. The only personalisation are "focal points" to give a little character so it sticks in the buyers mind.

I watch sweetie Plaza too. It's one of my fav programs. I do think it gives false expectations to people though of what to expect. House is blandified to hues of mud, snot & snow, 5 people visit & they all want it 'cos he's there with his gleaming smile & little bum.

Maybe I should e-mail him & see if he fancies a fondue for a change instead of his Parisian frogs legs.
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I will do it for 600.

Furthermore, I can do it remotely without having to visit the site.

We better have a board meeting of the association so we can fix the prices and screw the silly foreigners
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