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Zug old town vs. Walchwil for housing

Good morning,
We are a family of 4 with 2 teenage kids and are moving to the Zug area in 2 weeks.
We have 2 properties in our final list, one in Walchwil and the other in Zug old town.
I would like to hear from the forum on which would be best for community feel, travel links, road conditions to the top of Walchwil in icy/snowy conditions,
Basically any pros and cons to the 2 locations

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Re: Zug old town vs. Walchwil for housing

Old town.

For almost all consumables you will have to go to Zug anyway. Really the only advantage Walchwil has is that it has great view! Its no more icy or snowy than Zug but it is a bit of a bus ride (15 minutes).

But again...its only 15 minutes. Just depends on whether or not you and your family like to walk or not. Old town Zug is lovely.
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Really the only advantage Walchwil has is that it has great view! Its no more icy or snowy than Zug but it is a bit of a bus ride (15 minutes).
That, and price. You tend to get more for your money down there.
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Re: Zug old town vs. Walchwil for housing

I would choose the location that gives your teenagers easiest opportunities to go off and explore/meet contemporaries w/o parental taxi (or synching departure/arrival to a local bus that may only go once or twice an hour, and not past 20:00).
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Re: Zug old town vs. Walchwil for housing

Family with 2 teenage kids doesn't really work in the old town in my opinion. It's not a place I expect families to live.

Where will the kids go to school?

Old town properties are very old and small in size.

For a family I would choose Walchwil over Zug old town with eyes closed.

If you're only coming for a year or two then Zug old town might be an interesting experience. You'll be right in the middle of it!
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Re: Zug old town vs. Walchwil for housing

Hi Greg. This will also depend on your personal circumstances. Walchwil is very quiet, so if you have a partner who is not working, they may find it quite lonely. Where in Walchwil? Bottom or top? Bottom is great for easy access to the bus and train station. The top will mean a bit of a trek up some steep roads, but lovely view. This will not be an issue if you travel by car. There is a very close expat community in Walchwil and we often have social get togethers. Summer is particularly active for group BBQs and meet ups at the Badi (Swimming area of the lake). Walchwil is basically amazingly picturesque, but very quiet, while Zug will be more convenient and more buzzy, but less picturesque. I think you will be happy with whichever choice you go for, but it is down to personal taste at the end of the day.
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Family with 2 teenage kids doesn't really work in the old town in my opinion. It's not a place I expect families to live.

Where will the kids go to school?

Old town properties are very old and small in size.

For a family I would choose Walchwil over Zug old town with eyes closed.

If you're only coming for a year or two then Zug old town might be an interesting experience. You'll be right in the middle of it!
Kids are going to ISZL one to the Zug campus and the other to Hunenberg
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Hi Greg. This will also depend on your personal circumstances. Walchwil is very quiet, so if you have a partner who is not working, they may find it quite lonely. Where in Walchwil? Bottom or top? Bottom is great for easy access to the bus and train station. The top will mean a bit of a trek up some steep roads, but lovely view. This will not be an issue if you travel by car. There is a very close expat community in Walchwil and we often have social get togethers. Summer is particularly active for group BBQs and meet ups at the Badi (Swimming area of the lake). Walchwil is basically amazingly picturesque, but very quiet, while Zug will be more convenient and more buzzy, but less picturesque. I think you will be happy with whichever choice you go for, but it is down to personal taste at the end of the day.
thanks Nick, the house is at the top of Walchwil, my wife is concerned about access in and out in bad weather, should she be?
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Re: Zug old town vs. Walchwil for housing

I decided to rent in old town (Altstadt).

Taking into account that most part of the year I live here alone, the reasons were:

location (easy access by walk to pubs and shops)
price

But if I stay here with family, I would prefer some quiet zone near Baar for example.
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thanks Nick, the house is at the top of Walchwil, my wife is concerned about access in and out in bad weather, should she be?
Hi Greg. It depends on whether this is access by car or walking. Walking is a pain if you live high up and can be difficult as the routes are generally small pathways and may not be effectively cleared during winter. Regarding driving, the roads are generally always cleared well, so this should not be a problem, however, I would recommend an all wheel drive car regardless. Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions on Walchwil or want to find out more.
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Regarding driving, the roads are generally always cleared well, so this should not be a problem, however, I would recommend an all wheel drive car regardless.
Sadly it seems be snowing less and less each year. But I do agree with owning an AWD car. Lifesaver more than once while on weekends elsewhere.
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Re: Zug old town vs. Walchwil for housing

Personally I would move to the old town in Zug. It may be small but it is still a city and will offer much more social things for you and the teenagers.

In Zug the teenagers tend to hang out by the Lake near the old town or in the field by the lake a bit nearer to the harbour.

You'll also be close to the "Golden Dragon" which is my favourite chinese restaurant in the area.
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thanks Nick, the house is at the top of Walchwil, my wife is concerned about access in and out in bad weather, should she be?
We live at the top of a hill, other side of lake. Getting in and out in bad weather depends on what time the snow falls, in relation to when the plough comes and when you leave the house. Fairly obvious yes, but if you are leaving early morning, or returning late at night (as I did recently) you might find it less than ideal.

Do your teenagers like walking up hills, in case they miss the bus?
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Re: Zug old town vs. Walchwil for housing

Definitely Zug. I know several parents of ISZL students who regret moving to Walchwil - too quiet for the kids and quite a trip to Riverside campus (by Swiss standards). Zug has Meatli, which has a Starbucks where teenagers like to hang out. Also a cinema that shows English films. And shops…
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Zug has Meatli
Love it. Just love it. Where can I find some of this meatli? Sounds tasty.

Edit: Wait a second, Mr. Heisenberg. Since you already described it, you probably can't tell me it's location, can you?
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Re: Zug old town vs. Walchwil for housing

Hi Greg
I have not been to Walchwil so can't comment on that. In terms of Zug, I find it a lively little town and would think for teenagers it would be good to be in or on the edge of Zug. But the points mentioned by other writers are also relevant. One of those decisions for which there is no perfect answer, I guess, only a decision that one makes at the time and then has to experience. I live in Kanton Zürich near Baar and would have preferred to be in Baar but prices and flat availability did not work for me when I was looking. However, I have ended up in a village with the friendliest and most helpful neighbours and I probably say 'Gruezi' 20 times when I go to the shop as everyone greets each other here - including young children. Fun.

I also wanted to let your wife know about the International Women's Club (http://www.ziwc.ch) and you about the Men's Club (http://www.imcz.ch) which are great ways to meet people. Both offer meetups and events as you will see on their websites. All the best with the move.
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Love it. Just love it. Where can I find some of this meatli? Sounds tasty.

Edit: Wait a second, Mr. Heisenberg. Since you already described it, you probably can't tell me it's location, can you?
The first rule of Meatli is…don't talk about Meatli. Oh, wait a minute….wrong show.

OP, it's Metali - a shopping center in Zug. Also, you will make lots of friends through the school, especially if you drop off and pick up your kids rather than let them take the bus.
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Sadly it seems be snowing less and less each year.
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Also a cinema that shows English films. And shops…
You mean that small one near Irish pub?
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Why sadly?
Because snowboarding on grass in January is not as fun. Lack of fun is sad.
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