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jvia 25.01.2015 02:36

Renting without a [job] contract yet, is it possible?
 
Hello All

Question to the forum I could not find an answer to in the sticky.

We are a married EU couple, non Swiss, have lived in SWitzerland for many years and left it 2.5 years ago to work abroad.

We had our B permits frozen and now we want to come back to live in Switzerland, but we are coming, upfront, without a job. We are already applying and interviewing but we don't have them yet (Pharma & Banking industry are our jobs, so we will be fine)

However, question is: can we even try to get a rental in Zurich or Basel if, when applying, we cannot provide a Swiss employment contract yet?

I guess we technically can but our chances are slim....

Are there any alternatives for us, other than temp furnished accommodation until we sort out the job situation?

Thanks

Sbrinz 25.01.2015 02:40

Re: Renting without a contract yet, is it possible?
 
Nobody will rent you anything until they see evidence of a Swiss income.

After the Franc floated upwards against the Euro, exporting companies are taking a good look at reducing their costs. It might take a while to find a job.

jvia 25.01.2015 02:59

Re: Renting without a contract yet, is it possible?
 
at least the temp flats will work, no?

Sbrinz 25.01.2015 03:09

Re: Renting without a contract yet, is it possible?
 
What are "temp flats" ?

jvia 25.01.2015 03:18

Re: Renting without a contract yet, is it possible?
 
http://www.homegate.ch/rent/furnished-dwelling

:)

meloncollie 25.01.2015 09:23

Re: Renting without a contract yet, is it possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sbrinz (Post 2326875)
After the Franc floated upwards against the Euro, exporting companies are taking a good look at reducing their costs. It might take a while to find a job.

Jvia, this really must be stressed.

The financial sector now is not what it was when you left.

If you are on the cost side... be aware that finding a job here could be more difficult than you expect. Unless you have a comfortable financial cushion I'd counsel first securing a job - for at least one of you - before making the move.

Wishing you all the best.

AlreadyPacked 25.01.2015 09:32

Re: Renting without a contract yet, is it possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meloncollie (Post 2326934)
Jvia, this really must be stressed.

The financial sector now is not what it was when you left.

If you are on the cost side... be aware that finding a job here could be more difficult than you expect. Unless you have a comfortable financial cushion I'd counsel first securing a job - for at least one of you - before making the move.

Wishing you all the best.

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The hiring process is quite slow at the moment, find somewhere cheap to stay with internet connection. Start reconnecting with people on LinkedIn, network yourself into a phone interview. It could be months before you get something.


it took me 18 months to change jobs recently.

Phil_MCR 25.01.2015 09:49

Re: Renting without a contract yet, is it possible?
 
It isn't impossible, but of course a lot more difficult to convince a landlord to accept you without a job.

Island Monkey 25.01.2015 10:08

Re: Renting without a contract yet, is it possible?
 
I guess it depends where you live and if you go through a rental agency or not.

I have rented 5 different places, direct from landlords (no agency) and have never been asked to prove my income.

Guest 25.01.2015 10:34

Re: Renting without a contract yet, is it possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sbrinz (Post 2326875)
Nobody will rent you anything until they see evidence of a Swiss income.

After the Franc floated upwards against the Euro, exporting companies are taking a good look at reducing their costs. It might take a while to find a job.

A temp flat you'll get, it's very short term, weekly opr monthly, fully furnished and expensive to rent.

You'll also get a rental if you can provide prove of serious funds and tell the agency you are looking to buy,

Carrot and stick approach.

miniMia 25.01.2015 13:53

Re: Renting without a contract yet, is it possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jvia (Post 2326888)

Sure. You can do that. Temp flats and subletting to someone going away for a few months are options.

But do heed the warnings. Finding a job is tough these days and getting tougher.

If you are getting bites and interviews, hold out for at least one offer before you move.

jvia 26.01.2015 01:34

Re: Renting without a contract yet, is it possible?
 
thanks to all for the great answers :)

AroundTown 26.01.2015 16:32

Re: Renting without a contract yet, is it possible?
 
Recently had the same issue - http://www.englishforum.ch/housing-g...-contract.html .

Summary is that it's possible but definitely not easy!

lulumink 26.01.2015 22:35

Returning to Switzerland without a job, how to rent?
 
Hey there,

Here is something that I can't find a clear answer for.

I'll be going to Switzerland later this year. But I need time to find a job.
Well, the tricky question is, how am I supposed to rent an apartment without a job first?

Btw, I am a Swiss citizen. So no worries about immigration status. No family or relatives currently in CH.

Has anyone had similar experience before? How do you go about it?

Thank you for all the helpful tips.

Troublawesome 26.01.2015 22:48

Re: Returning to Switzerland without a job, how to rent?
 
I don't think it should be too hard for you if you're a Swiss citizen, provided you have the money to pay the deposits they ask and enough in the bank if they ask you how you'll repay the rest.

Are you on RAV or will live on own savings?

Don Molina 26.01.2015 23:23

Re: Renting without a contract yet, is it possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Island Monkey (Post 2326953)
I guess it depends where you live and if you go through a rental agency or not.

I have rented 5 different places, direct from landlords (no agency) and have never been asked to prove my income.

This. It's always been easier for me or anyone I know to deal with owners instead of agencies.


Quote:

Originally Posted by DimitriosG (Post 2328336)
I don't think it should be too hard for you if you're a Swiss citizen, provided you have the money to pay the deposits they ask and enough in the bank if they ask you how you'll repay the rest.

Are you on RAV or will live on own savings?

This applies to non-swiss as well. If you can produce a banking statement with enough savings they will rent you without any problem. A lot of students come in to study and when they're looking to group together and get their own flat, they show parents' endowments that were given for the costs of living during the studies.

lulumink 26.01.2015 23:35

Re: Returning to Switzerland without a job, how to rent?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DimitriosG (Post 2328336)
I don't think it should be too hard for you if you're a Swiss citizen, provided you have the money to pay the deposits they ask and enough in the bank if they ask you how you'll repay the rest.

Are you on RAV or will live on own savings?

First of all, thank you for your reply.

I think it has nothing to do with the citizenship when it comes to renting.
They still want me to show them the proof of employment.
I need time to get a job, but how can I get a job without getting a place to live? Such a dilemma.

I'm not on RAV. I don't have too much left on my bank account.:(
If this doesn't work out, I might just as well go to the Sozialamt and apply for social aides for a couple of months. :mad: Trust me I don't want to do that.

josquius 28.01.2015 19:22

Re: Returning to Switzerland without a job, how to rent?
 
Not even is it nigh on impossible to get a flat without a job but I believe that it is also incredibly difficult to get one after less than 3 months of work.
My flat search took a while and was quite a pain...but as soon as my 3rd payslip came through I was suddenly offered 3 flats.

jnegrao 29.01.2015 09:21

Re: Returning to Switzerland without a job, how to rent?
 
I arrived in Switzerland 2 years ago and had no issues in renting with the working contract only.

Zuri2015 29.01.2015 10:31

Re: Renting without a [job] contract yet, is it possible?
 
In our case (EU citizen applying for a rental agreement, having had a job for 1 month at the time), we had to get references from the employer, being new to the country. We definitely had to show proof of income. We ended up looking for a place that didn't have too much interest further away from Zurich city, as it was proving to be difficult to rent when there were other people applying who had a good history in CH.

Maybe as you rented in Switzerland before and have a history here, you could ask your previous rental agencies to provide references for you? Not sure if it's a possibility here...


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