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Filling out nachmieter application

I am currently filling out a nachmieter form and I had a few questions. I checked to see if there were any posts that already contained the information I was looking for but no such luck.

What does one normally write in the comments section (or do most people leave that blank)? Also, I'm not incredibly familiar with filling out German forms and am wondering what this "G.:" means? It was beside the Tel. P.: so I’m assuming "G.:" is for a cell number and Tel. P.: is for home/main phone number? Finally, the address line is supposed to include floor number - how does one properly format the address?

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Re: Filling out nachmieter application

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I can only help you with one question. The "G" next to the Tel. Nummer "P" means Office (G=Geschäft), while "P" stand for Privat.
Hope that helps.
Not sure about floor number? Can you maybe post a Picture of the form that you have to fill in?
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Re: Filling out nachmieter application

Have you seen the flat? Or have you sent someone you know and trust to look at it? If it is with a private individual and not an agency be very careful.

In the comments section, I usually write something on behalf of my clients which explains any missing information and that they can contact me for questions in German.
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Re: Filling out nachmieter application

How do you know the address is supposed to include the "floor number" -- what makes you think that? (It would be a very unusual request.)

The usual format for addresses, whether for an apartment or house, is:

Musterstrasse 123
4567 Dorfwil

... and that's it. No apartment number (there usually isn't one here -- your name, or at least your initials, must be on your letter box. As long as you've provided your name, and that name is on your letter box, the post(wo)man will deliver your mail). No need to write your canton, either, as the postcode (PLZ -- 4567 in the example above) specifies the town or village. If you feel compelled to write the canton, use the two-letter abbreviation (e.g. ZH, BL, VD). I don't know what the abbreviation for Canton Calgary is.
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Hi
I can only help you with one question. The "G" next to the Tel. Nummer "P" means Office (G=Geschäft), while "P" stand for Privat.
Hope that helps.
Not sure about floor number? Can you maybe post a Picture of the form that you have to fill in?
Ah, okay thank you! I'm just filling out the "anmeldung nachmieter formular" that is found on the mieterverband website. The first line of the application says "Adresse, Stockwerk". So, that's where I'm a bit confused.

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Have you seen the flat? Or have you sent someone you know and trust to look at it? If it is with a private individual and not an agency be very careful.

In the comments section, I usually write something on behalf of my clients which explains any missing information and that they can contact me for questions in German.
Unfortunately, due to my situation that isn't a possibility as I can't be there until May 1st and I start working on May 4th. The only person I know who is even remotely close by is 3 hours away in Germany and unavailable at present. I am sending my application to the current tenant who will then send it to her landlord. Should I be approved, I was planning on contacting my company and seeing if someone might be able to go on my behalf just to verify that it isn't any kind of scam/the place exists before sending any money.

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How do you know the address is supposed to include the "floor number" -- what makes you think that? (It would be a very unusual request.)

The usual format for addresses, whether for an apartment or house, is:

Musterstrasse 123
4567 Dorfwil
Oh haha, Calgary is not a part of any canton. I am currently still abroad. As stated above though, the form says "Adresse, Stockwerk". As I understand it, stockwerk roughly translates to floor?
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Re: Filling out nachmieter application

Yes, Stockwerk means floor. This probably relates to applications for brand new apartments that haven't been occupied before, so (since they aren't numbered) there is no other way of identifying the unit. Not relevant in the case of a Nachmieter application.

Some landlords won't rent out to applicants who haven't seen the apartment, but in the case of a Nachmieter application, this condition may be waived.

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Yes, Stockwerk means floor. This probably relates to applications for brand new apartments that haven't been occupied before, so (since they aren't numbered) there is no other way of identifying the unit. Not relevant in the case of a Nachmieter application.

Some landlords won't sent out to applicants who haven't seen the apartment, but in the case of a Nachmieter application, this condition may be waived.
It is not just new apartments. Many buildings may have more than one "3.5 Zimmer Wohnung" so the floor is used to identify the unit. Keep in mind that the ground floor is "EG" whereas in Canada it would be the first floor. So here one level up is 1.OG. Sometimes there is even a further clarification, like the which side of the building it is on. There is a numbering system for apartments but this is used for internal purposes (heating systems, telephone wiring).

Many landlords will not rent an apartment to someone who has not seen the unit but in the case of a nachmieter situation, the landlord may not know the person has not seen the apartment as often the visits are handled by the current tenant.

There is a risk in renting something you have not seen. Other than furnished rentals managed by firms, there is very little that one can rent in advance without worrying.

I don't know how companies expect interns to find where to live which is why certain firms have rentals they keep for interns or offer some house search assistance on an informal basis.

If you have an application form with a property manager's name, address and full details, and you can confirm this is legitimate, then I think it would be safe to assume the property exists. I would ask to see a copy of the current tenant's lease because a nachmieter situation should be the same conditions. If the place is furnished and you are just staying there short term and then the current tenant will move back in, this is different. But it doesn't sound like the latter is the situation.

I have helped interns find places to live, but really only in Kanton AG, and along the Zurich border. It is not easy at all as the budgets are very tight. What I do know is that some of these companies have kept the rental contracts on the places I secured because they were such a good deal.
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It is not just new apartments. Many buildings may have more than one "3.5 Zimmer Wohnung" so the floor is used to identify the unit.
Right, this is what I was trying to say -- the "Stockwerk" may be mentioned in the tenancy contract or in a new building sales or rental prospectus, for internal identification purposes, but it doesn't form part of the address for postal purposes.

When the OP asked about the formatting of addresses, I thought she meant postal addresses, but I realise now that she might need to identify an apartment for contractual purposes -- in which case, if the "Stockwerk" of your target rental apartment is requested, just state the floor number (as advised above, this will be (in German) EG for ground level, 1. OG for the first floor above ground (2nd floor in North American parlance), 2. OG for the next, etc. If you're unlucky enough to live in a basement apartment, that would be UG (or 1. UG, 2. UG, if there are multiple basement apartment levels )). Then you may need to specify the apartment (Whg = Wohnung = apartment) size, in rooms (Z or Zi = Zimmer = room(s)), where the kitchen, bathrooms and Wintergarden (unheated conservatory/covered balcony) are not included in the room count. If there is more than one apartment of the same size on the floor, you will also need to specify on which side of the building your apartment lies! L= links = left, R = rechts = right.

So you could have:

4-Zi Whg, 3. OG L
Musterstrasse 123
4567 Dorfwil

It can get complicated ...
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Thank you both for your detailed explanations.
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