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Old 23.04.2008, 21:45
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lease terms in Suisse Romande

Hi all
we are utterly surprised with the lease contract we have been presented with for a house in Grandvaux we would like to rent.

The lease contract stipulates, that it is a yearly contract that will be renewed continuously if we do not cancel it 6 months before the end of the lease. This means that we can only cancel the lease once a year and, in the worst case scenario, we might end up paying for up to 17 MONTHS RENT if we are not able to produce a potential new renter.
Having lived in German speaking CH for years this is unbelievable. We have 3 month and we can cancel at the end of every month.

What is the situation in Vaud???
Any feedback will be really appreciated.
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Old 23.04.2008, 21:51
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Re: lease terms in Suisse Romande

Hi, 6 months is a bit long, but 3 or 4 months is perfectly normal, however with the rental market being so hot it's hardly a problem,
Don't forget, all yo need to find is 1 person who will take over the lease under the same conditions as yo have. and if the landlord doesn't accept that person then you are free of yor lease anyway.
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Re: lease terms in Suisse Romande

I agree with Sparks10061.......this is pretty standard and all the leases I have signed over the past 24 years, in Suisse Romande and on the Zürisee were of this nature...but we have always found plenty of potential renters when we wanted to leave 'hors bail'. It just means the onus for advertising is on on you.
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Yep, our lease is very similar - automatically renewed for 12 months unless we tell them 4 months in advance. I agree that this is not particularly convenient, but nothing is when it comes to the rental market here.
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I run into a similar sitution (everybody I know says it is an extreme position):
Bail in Lutry, Vaud with Regie de la Couronne:
A. - 5 years term
B. - 6 months notice
C. - first time I can give them the annual notice is 2 years after the beginning of the contract, then annually.

The only thing I don't understand yet is why do they set it as an X years term contract (5 in this case), while you can still cancel on an annual basis (point C. above, that, TRUE, comes as an Exception / "Disposition Complementaire" )

I appreciate any input from people with some expertise in the real estate / legal area.

Many thanks in advance !


Side note:
In my opinion any expat that would sign such an abusive contract should be out of his mind, just encouraging the owners to exaggerate even further.
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Re: lease terms in Suisse Romande

You say the place is located in Lutry. Unless it is a complete hell hole then I expect that you'd be able to find a dozen different people wanting to take over your lease within a week. You could therefore end the lease any time you want by having them apply to the agency.
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The only thing I don't understand yet is why do they set it as an X years term contract (5 in this case), while you can still cancel on an annual basis (point C. above, that, TRUE, comes as an Exception / "Disposition Complementaire" )
Just wondering if it isn't say because the owner is working abroad for five years and wants to be sure that he/she can have it back in five year's time?
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ChrisW, I appreciate your comment, however my view is slightly different. Why should you or I sign an unreasonable contract, while both of us are reasonable people, pay the rent, leave a decent deposit, take good care of the place we rent, give them notice in time and so on, that's what I don't understand.

Why should the tenants take the risk if say the market goes down, or something happens unexpectedly (i.e. major health problem for you/family)?
If you study this deeper before you sign a contract, you should know that tenants are exposed to a 3 months notice and "good luck" in case the landlord sells the apartment/house and the new owner brings good arguments for moving in.

Found a chunk of good info here:
http://accentway.com/web/claudiu/rent

Seems that most contracts "period determinee" are renewable on a yearly basis with a 3 months notice. Any deviation from this just make the tenant to take more risk than the landlord.

Hope this helps.
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Old 23.05.2010, 16:02
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Thanks Lausannebrit.
Maybe ... However they get even more "apartment liquidity" if they sign an annually renewable contract.
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