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Not necessarily, depends on the circumstances.... and when did I give you permission to tu-toi me?????


Call me naive but would vous and "go f yourself" really go together? wouldn't you switch tu at that point?
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Old 16.03.2015, 18:40
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Re: Are Neighbours Really that bad?

It's true! I'm a really bad neighbor! I'm as bad as they come. I regularly shower at odd hours, but particularly after 10PM. We wash our laundry on Sunday. We have original floorboards that creak as soon as a fly just hovers around. We practice Salsa and Flamenco religiously. We have two loud cats who love to run around at the wee hours the morning. I'm very fond of death metal and enjoy recreational drumming before a good night's sleep.

I also systematically leave flammable materials in the cellar, old crap overflows everywhere and I leave cardboard boxes blocking the communal areas. I wash my motorbike in the communal garage, making sure to liberally sprinkle chain degreaser and gunk everywhere so it smells like a crackhead den down there.

The fact that I enjoy reloading ammo for my rather vast gun collection and there are a few kilos of gunpowder below our neighbors bedroom is really just the icing on this proverbial cake of poo.
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Old 16.03.2015, 18:42
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Re: Are Neighbours Really that bad?

Kayakdad, make sure you don't have any EF folks as your neighbours!

I think there are more bad stories here on EF, than bad neighbours in general. I echo the statement of others - try and get a ground floor apartment, if you can. An attika is also not a bad option - but perhaps it will be more expensive. Attikas generally have the bedrooms upstairs and you can keep the "downstairs" free from toys and little elephants!

The other tip I can give is go for apartments which are family-friendly and where there are visible signs that young kids live there (you know the buggies, scooters, 10,000 playgrounds in a 5-m radius, etc.)

We live in such an apartment - most of the people have kids here, and we are too busy maintaining our sanity to notice the noise the other kids (may) make!

Good luck with your search!
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Call me naive but would vous and "go f yourself" really go together? wouldn't you switch tu at that point?
Yeah, if I say to someone to go somewhere and do something with self, I think we past the vous form.
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It's true! I'm a really bad neighbor! I'm as bad as they come. I regularly shower at odd hours, but particularly after 10PM. We wash our laundry on Sunday. We have original floorboards that creak as soon as a fly just hovers around. We practice Salsa and Flamenco religiously. We have two loud cats who love to run around at the wee hours the morning. I'm very fond of death metal and enjoy recreational drumming before a good night's sleep.

I also systematically leave flammable materials in the cellar, old crap overflows everywhere and I leave cardboard boxes blocking the communal areas. I wash my motorbike in the communal garage, making sure to liberally sprinkle chain degreaser and gunk everywhere so it smells like a crackhead den down there.

The fact that I enjoy reloading ammo for my rather vast gun collection and there are a few kilos of gunpowder below our neighbors bedroom is really just the icing on this proverbial cake of poo.
You must be every EF member's neighbour.
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Old 16.03.2015, 20:19
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Re: Are Neighbours Really that bad?

I had read all about the neighbours and the noise curfews and the rules here and had only half-believed it! It just seems so utterly bizarre coming from England.

We stayed in furnished accommodation in Zug for one month where we never had complaints and heard guys partying every night in one of the neighbouring flats. Also would see people on the opposite balconies throwing towels to dry over the edge and one woman was a complete chain-smoker (every time I looked she was there smoking haha) so this cemented my view that the stories I had read on here had been exaggerated or was a very narrow cross-section of experiences or something.

But less than a week after we moved into our own flat, I had an email from the landlady, politely asking us to check the rules and to not hang washing visibly on the balcony and to keep the noise down from the children!! I was a bit pissed tbh because the times stated were during hours when my children are never awake (5am!) I replied with an apology for the washing but protesting my innocence to the noise at those hours! My kids are really noisy though so I did start reminding them (constantly!) to be quiet.

Since then we have heard lots of noise coming from downstairs during quiet hours, many occasions so we thought, fk it nobody else is being quiet so we have relaxed a bit and even though my kids can be noisy I have not had any more complaints

Most of our neighbours are very friendly and we have chatted with them outside when it was snowing and one of them brought us a zopf, one of them whatsapps me pictures of his days out and his holidays

They might resist you moving in at first but keep smiling at them and co-operate for the first 3 weeks and you should be ok! (y)


I've had to complain already too though! I felt bad about it but I had to; upstairs have (presumably) grandchildren over sometimes and we don't always hear anything from above at all but when we do it seems constant and for a stretch of several days. They are very very little children like 1 or 2 years old and of course behave accordingly It wasnt that long ago since mine were little so I'm very tolerant but they were disturbing my children while they were trying to sleep, they had to get up for school in the morning and after about 3 consecutive nights. Had a polite word with them and they have been quieter since!
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Old 16.03.2015, 23:25
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More likely to say 'va faire foutre*', at least down here in Geneva!

*Literally 'go make yourself'.
My girls have brought home 'casse-toi' which i'm reliably informed translates to 'break yourself' and just means ' f-off' for simple folks like me.

This is why I moved here, to be insulted by my six year old princess in a language she knows I can't speak.

Hurray for the Swiss education system.
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Old 17.03.2015, 05:38
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This is why I moved here, to be insulted by my six year old princess in a language she knows I can't speak.

Hurray for the Swiss education system.
Because that only happens in Switzerland.
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Don't be tempted by going out too much into the boondocks. Some friends of ours got a place in Bärschwil which was cheap and they got a bigger house for their bucks, but the place is a little bit Midwich Cuckoos and they got treated appallingly by the locals.

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OTOH, I know the people who moved into their house, and had no problems at all. But then he did win shooting competitions for the yokels.

Places like Magden, Bubdendorf and Sissach, for example, are relatively far out but reasonably cosmopolitan.

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We lived in Binningen, it was nice.

We are now in Bruderholz and it's wonderful.
You've literally gone up in the world.
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Re: Are Neighbours Really that bad?

Look for a family friendly living area Basel, also get some advise from your real estate agency etc.. Living in a quite expensive, no kids area can be a challenge with kids, also with pets. Good luck.
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Old 17.03.2015, 08:11
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Re: Are Neighbours Really that bad?

No one has mentioned the heights of Oberwil which, from my visits to various friends, seems to contain upmarket modern large airy apartment blocks with lots of communal gardens full of ex pat children bombing about on bicycles and trikes and certainly being seen and heard ..I'm not entirely sure if any Swiss live up that way but some of them must surely - I always thought that if we moved into the big smoke (Basel hah!) that's where we'd look ..

Alternatively push a little further outside the Basel envelope and nip over the röstigraben to Jura - 30 mins by train from Basel (we both work in Basel and live in Jura) but as it is in La Belle Suisse Romande, rules here are only made for breaking ... Lived in a flat here with absolutely no problems for 2 yrs - far more relaxed than our previous neighbours in detached owned houses in a small village in Baselland.
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one of them whatsapps me pictures of his days out and his holidays
You should be glad you don't have my neighbours. Not long after we moved in, they invited us over for a drink one evening. Told us about their holidays, and that they liked a bit of "FKK" (nudism).

Then they got the holiday photo album out
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Because that only happens in Switzerland.
I don't understand your post.
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My girls have brought home 'casse-toi' which i'm reliably informed translates to 'break yourself' and just means ' f-off' for simple folks like me.

This is why I moved here, to be insulted by my six year old princess in a language she knows I can't speak.

Hurray for the Swiss education system.
Casse-toi is a very French slang expression- certainly not Swiss. Diam's is a female French rapper that used it in one of her hit songs 'prends ton string et casse-toi' (take your G-string and leave)

http://dai.ly/xvlld

Not quite sure what it's got to do with the Swiss education system.
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Re: Are Neighbours Really that bad?

I had a neighbour from hell who made everyones life a misery.

She lived on the third floor in the next block and insisted that my cat had slept in her bed one night. Right!! He becomes supercat after dark and can fly.

Another neighbour she attacked was for drying her clothes over the balcony - Remarking that she thought we were living in Geneva and not Venice!!

The list just went on and on. She was a busy body with her nose in everyones business. The only time i felt sorry for her was when her dog died.

We had a impromtu drinks party when she moved. Raising our glasses and playing music and i think the word foutre came into the conversation alot. And she did a midnight flit thinking no one would notice.

There is always one that can make or break the close community of flat living. But, you can also make life long friends with people you may not have met in other circumstances.
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Not quite sure how you misinterpreted it as anything other than irony.
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One more for the list. People we know have lived in their flat for 20+ years.. Done lots of improvements, inside & out, including a lovely covered area to sit outside & eat, pretty paving & path, sound proofed dividers, lots of lovely plants. Complaint made by one of the neighbours to the regie. Now they have to remove everything they have spent years putting in.
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One more for the list. People we know have lived in their flat for 20+ years.. Done lots of improvements, inside & out, including a lovely covered area to sit outside & eat, pretty paving & path, sound proofed dividers, lots of lovely plants. Complaint made by one of the neighbours to the regie. Now they have to remove everything they have spent years putting in.
What was the complaint about? Did they have a point? Because the just might, you know
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One more for the list. People we know have lived in their flat for 20+ years.. Done lots of improvements, inside & out, including a lovely covered area to sit outside & eat, pretty paving & path, sound proofed dividers, lots of lovely plants. Complaint made by one of the neighbours to the regie. Now they have to remove everything they have spent years putting in.
One of our neighbours wanted to erect a permanent, attached gazebo on his terrace and had to ask the permission of the co-owners (they are owner-occupied appartments). One refusal was enough for him not to be able to build it.
It is worth checking the regulations regarding external improvements.
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Re: Are Neighbours Really that bad?

Meanwhile I washed the car last night between 2015 and 2045 using the jet-wash. Having "wet" the car I spotted the neighbour on their terrace - before I rinsed the car I asked if it was OK to use the jet-wash again - "No problem!!" was the response.

And he's a local justice of the peace.
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