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Dear all,
we have just bought an apartment.
There is a super ugly and tall tree in front of our building blocking all the amazing view.
Not sure if it belongs to the building in front.
Which are the steps to follow to have this useless tree cut down?
Please conservationist refrain to answer me or attack. I am happy to plant 20o trees to compensate ending the life of this one.
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Old 23.04.2015, 08:24
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Dear all,
we have just bought an apartment.
There is a super ugly and tall tree in front of our building blocking all the amazing view.
Not sure if it belongs to the building in front.
Which are the steps to follow to have this useless tree cut down?
Please conservationist refrain to answer me or attack. I am happy to plant 20o trees to compensate ending the life of this one.
Wow - that tree grew quickly - is it a Leylandi ??
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Old 23.04.2015, 08:26
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Re: Tree

Did you not notice the tree when you bought the apartment? If so, why did you not ask about removing it at the time you were negotiating the purchase?
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Dear all,
we have just bought an apartment.
There is a super ugly and tall tree in front of our building blocking all the amazing view.
Not sure if it belongs to the building in front.
Which are the steps to follow to have this useless tree cut down?
Please conservationist refrain to answer me or attack. I am happy to plant 20o trees to compensate ending the life of this one.

Plant the 200 trees first - then we can talk.
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Old 23.04.2015, 09:05
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- "Are you sure there's only tree, Paddy - I thought that there were at least four of them"
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Re: Tree

The seller should have told you about the tree.

If the apartment was sold to you under a false pretext (such as it having an amazing view) you can get a lawyer to invalidate the sale. As a buyer you cannot be expected to check for yourself. You have to be able to trust realtors.
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Re: Tree

Ring bark it in the middle of the night.

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Re: Tree

There's a book that may be helpful (Amazon.co.uk, I think):

'DIY Tree Maintenance and Tree Surgery'

By Tim Burr.
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Re: Tree

May I introduce you to my brother's independent tree management company:

Rent-a-beaver

Well, I think it's the mammal version he's offering anyway ....
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Dear all,
we have just bought an apartment.
There is a super ugly and tall tree in front of our building blocking all the amazing view.
Not sure if it belongs to the building in front.
Which are the steps to follow to have this useless tree cut down?
Please conservationist refrain to answer me or attack. I am happy to plant 20o trees to compensate ending the life of this one.
First establish on whose property the tree stands.
If it belongs to someone else, all you can do is ask them nicely if you may trim the tree down (at your own cost) to allow you your view.
If they disagree, there`s not much you can do except grumble.
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Dear all,
we have just bought an apartment.
There is a super ugly and tall tree in front of our building blocking all the amazing view.
Not sure if it belongs to the building in front.
Which are the steps to follow to have this useless tree cut down?
Please conservationist refrain to answer me or attack. I am happy to plant 20o trees to compensate ending the life of this one.
Sounds like you need the services of a certain Bergholt Stuttley Johnson, notable, amongst other things, for the Artificial hillock, right in front of Quirm Manor, made of 2,000 tons of earth, because "it would drive me nuts to have to look at a bunch of trees and a lake all day, how about you?".
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Re: Tree

As everyone else has said, you should have addressed this before buying the flat. Having failed to do so, you might find you have an uphill battle now.

If the tree is not on your property, you need to understand first who owns that land, and then speak to that person/group.

Generally there are cantonal/Gemeinde/Quartier rules governing trees and other plantings - height, set back, etc. And generally an objection cannot be made after a certain time period has expired. (In SZ, for instance, the Frist is 5 years. So a tree older than that must be allowed to stand - although one can ask to have it pruned to regulation height.)

You should start by speaking to your Gemeinde and building management for the legal specifics. You can also take a look here, the advise service of Hauseigentumerverband St Gallen:

http://www.hev-sg.ch/home/rechtsberatung/

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Now, having got that out of the way...

Do you realize that Tree Wars are up on the top of the list of things that create eternal enmity among neighbors? Please think carefully before unleashing the mother of all Nachbarkriege. Speak to your neighbors, gauge their attitudes towards the tree. If you are the only one objecting to it... tread carefully. Perhaps a bit of judicious pruning might be a good compromise.

Your building likely has a yearly meeting of owners - if the tree is on property held communally among the flat owners this would be a good time to discuss it.

(I usually find myself losing the will to live during the annual bun fight Quartierversammelung where the perpetual subject of The Hedge That Is Three Centimeters Too Tall comes up.)

If you initiate this and the neighbors are not in agreement be prepared to pay the costs yourself. A professional tree removal firm will charge 4 to 5 figures to cut down a tree, height and access depending.

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There is so little green space, so few trees left in suburbia. Much of Switzerland has become a souless jumble of concrete boxes. At least a tree here, a garden there gives us a bit of life to counter the sterility. I find the current hatred of all things green so very sad.
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Ring bark it in the middle of the night.

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In Sydney, local councils take a hard line against removal of trees. Some years ago, a large and very old tree on public land in a harbourside suburb started dying. Close inspection revealed that persons unknown had driven copper nails into its trunk and roots, thereby slowly poisoning the venerable tree. Helpfully, the owner of a large house with a potentially magnificent harbour view, between which stood only one large tree (now, coincidentally, dying) suggested that the Council cut the tree down, on safety grounds. The Council duly complied, removing the tree at its own expense.

Then the Council erected a huge, completely opaque billboard measuring some 10m x 10m on the site of the now-removed tree in front of the grand harbourside mansion, with a subtle public message: UNAUTHORISED REMOVAL OF TREES IS ILLEGAL. The billboard stood there for many years.
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Gorilla knit a colourful trunk "sock"?

You've really raised my curiosity on this supposedly hideous tree - what variety is it?
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Gorilla knit a colourful trunk "sock"?

You've really raised my curiosity on this supposedly hideous tree - what variety is it?
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In Sydney, local councils take a hard line against removal of trees. Some years ago, a large and very old tree on public land in a harbourside suburb started dying. Close inspection revealed that persons unknown had driven copper nails into its trunk and roots, thereby slowly poisoning the venerable tree. Helpfully, the owner of a large house with a potentially magnificent harbour view, between which stood only one large tree (now, coincidentally, dying) suggested that the Council cut the tree down, on safety grounds. The Council duly complied, removing the tree at its own expense.

Then the Council erected a huge, completely opaque billboard measuring some 10m x 10m on the site of the now-removed tree in front of the grand harbourside mansion, with a subtle public message: UNAUTHORISED REMOVAL OF TREES IS ILLEGAL. The billboard stood there for many years.
Never thought the actions of a Sydney local council would warm my cockles. It could only be improved by planting the same type of tree behind the billboard, and keeping the billboard there either until the tree was sufficiently large or permanently.
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Of course, those oranges are not uniform enough for sale - better scrap the tree and buy them at Migros/Coop
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Of course, those oranges are not uniform enough for sale - better scrap the tree and buy them at Migros/Coop
Tuttut - they are not Oranges - click on the treek to find out!
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Tuttut - they are not Oranges - click on the treek to find out!
Of course, no wonder they are so Ugli!
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Next to our old house in the UK, was a lovely paddock with 2 horses and 1 donkey. The owner then sold it to a developer, and we therefore were really pleased that we had a 50 year old tall mixed row of trees between the new development and us - philadelphus, lilac, elder, awthorn, etc.

They built a bungalow next to our fence behind the row of trees, barely 5ft away- and that bungalow sold for 30.000 less than the others for that reason. The elderly couple who bought it began almost the day after they'd moved to complain- writing long letters (without punctuation...) re our hedge and how it should be cut. Fortunately we had insured that it was inspected and had a protection order due to being an old mixed hedge of ecological value. We were friendly but firm- and the answer was a big NO! The hedge was there for half a century, was there the day they first viewed the house, there the second time they viewed the house, there the day they decided to buy it, there the day they signed the contract. When asked why they had bought it even though the hedge bothered them, the reply was 'because it was 30.000 less than the others!' - well yes, and for good reasons.

Our house is now a childrens' nursery and language school- and the hedge is still there to be enjoyed by birds and the children. Great! When the builders in the paddock accidentally on purpose backed into a tall poplar tree that was at the corner of our garden- I got the developer to replace it with another- at their cost- and again, it cost them a lot of money and delayed construction.

Tom- some of us know about trees, ring barking and copper nails- and would sue anyone who'd try that old and nasty trick. Friend of ours in the UK had a long standing row with neighbours about a tree- they'd won the court case that decreed the neighbour had no right to request it to be cut. The neighbours waited until they were on holiday and got a tree surgeon to cut it. Our friends returned, called the police and their son who is a lawyer- and the neighbour had to have a very mature, tall tree re-planted- which cost them an absolute fortune! The tree alone was nearly £5000.

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