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single family house close to Bern - but where exactly?

To those of you who live/have lived in Bern area (or surrounding cantons close to Bern).


I am in the middle of panic attack, so please help if you can. My OH would appreciate!
We are moving to Bern. And this ASAP. The news came pretty much unexpectedly and since the 5 hours of daily commute is too much for our family, we decided to do the move.
When it comes to moving and house hunting I am a little control freak since our home means a lot to us. At the top of all we need to be sure that the new house is dog friendly. It has to be close to fields or meadows, for long walks and since our dog is not the youngest, the property around house should not be hillside and full of stairs.
After 6+ years in Kanton ZH (as a tenant and as an owner) I know which web sites to use for house hunting, etc., but I am totally lost when it comes to knowing which areas around Bern would be best for us. I am armed with immoscout, google maps and sbb page, but this is all so theoretical - I am dying for practical advises…


So to our wish list:
Single family detached house (EFH) – it has to be new or just recently built – it can be either for buy or for rent. My OH doesn't mind to commute to Bern city center until the commute is max. 1 hour - door to door with public transportation or 30 min with car.
Which areas should we look? Which cantons/towns/villages? Do you live in any such area which meet our criteria and perhaps know of any building projects there? I would really appreciate any input.


Because of all our wishes, I know, we would probably need to rent an apartment first, before finding our dream house, but I would like to start looking for the house immediately.

Thank you so very much!
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Re: single family house close to Bern - but where exactly?

Bern has quite high taxes, so you might wish to consider villages in the north end of canton Freiburg, between Kerzers and Bösingen,

https://www.comparis.ch/immobilien/default.aspx
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Re: single family house close to Bern - but where exactly?

Kleinbösingen and Murten appear to have the lowest tax rates in German-speaking Fribourg.
Gemeinde Muri just outside Bern also has very low taxes.
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Re: single family house close to Bern - but where exactly?

I was going to suggest Kerzers. It's a nice reasonably priced town within an easy commute to Bern ( 20 minutes by train).
It's in a relatively flat rural area for walking your dog.

Ins would also be a good option although the taxes may be a bit higher there.

Easy access to the station and frequency of trains would be important to me as well as the taxes.
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Kleinbösingen and Murten appear to have the lowest tax rates in German-speaking Fribourg.
Gemeinde Muri just outside Bern also has very low taxes.
Bit of a crap commute from Kleinbösingen, though.
Walk to bus stop, bus to Düdingen, then slow train to Bern.


ETA: Düdingen itself is possible (slightly upmarket rents - and probably taxes, though); Schmitten or Wünnewil are quite countryfied, and close to rail and motorway links, and within Kanton Fribourg for tax benefits.

Worth noting that Fribourg to Bern, by fast train is only 20 mins. Somewhere outside Fribourg, with good connections to Fribourg station, isn't out of the question.

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We used to live in Belp, along the Guerbetal. It was very pretty, there was some building going on further south. There is a train to Bern every half hour. It might be worth looking at it.
On the other side of the Belpberg in the direction of Thun are lots of communities.
The bezirk is seftigen, I think. I don't know about the builds or taxes, but it's a nice area.
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Thank you!
Haven't looked at these areas before, so I will definitely check these places too and see if there is something waiting for us

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We used to live in Belp, along the Guerbetal. It was very pretty, there was some building going on further south. There is a train to Bern every half hour. It might be worth looking at it.
On the other side of the Belpberg in the direction of Thun are lots of communities.
The bezirk is seftigen, I think. I don't know about the builds or taxes, but it's a nice area.
Perfect, Belp was actually the first town on my "must check in person and see if we like it" list. Thank you!

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Re: single family house close to Bern - but where exactly?

We really liked living there, although we had an apartment. The commute wasn't bad - we drove via Wabern to get into the city. Good luck!
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Re: single family house close to Bern - but where exactly?

Have a look at Thun.

Reasonable size town (50,000ish) and a 20 minute train ride to the centre of Bern. It is on a beautiful lake and has easy access to the ski resorts in the Oberland (Wengen, Grindelwald, Murren, Adelboden).
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Have a look at Thun.

Reasonable size town (50,000ish) and a 20 minute train ride to the centre of Bern. It is on a beautiful lake and has easy access to the ski resorts in the Oberland (Wengen, Grindelwald, Murren, Adelboden).
Thun is lovely too. Also check all the towns along the train route (slow trains) between Thun and Bern. If you want a house, you're probably better off in some of the smaller places along the way.
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Re: single family house close to Bern - but where exactly?

Muri is right next to Bern. But Thun would be also ok. The view there is always breathtaking
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Perfect, Belp was actually the first town on my "must check in person and see if we like it" list. Thank you!
Belp is a good compromise between being near to both Bern and and green fields. It's not particularly well connected, though - probably need to add 15 minutes to any journey. Close to the airport, which can be a plus or a minus, depending on your point of view.
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Re: single family house close to Bern - but where exactly?

Based on your criteria, I'd say do not waste your time looking in Köniz. From what I understand they do not allow new single-family homes any more - only multi-family complexes. So you could have a tough time finding a newer build that's stand-alone. Several areas are pretty hilly too. Also from friends I've heard their municipal office is horribly unfriendly to anyone not Swiss or EU or German-speaking.
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Based on your criteria, I'd say do not waste your time looking in Köniz. From what I understand they do not allow new single-family homes any more - only multi-family complexes. So you could have a tough time finding a newer build that's stand-alone. Several areas are pretty hilly too. Also from friends I've heard their municipal office is horribly unfriendly to anyone not Swiss or EU or German-speaking.
Thank you so much for this input. I really appreciate it. We do speak German, but of course "only" Hochdeutsch so it probably wouldn't count anyway and if they are not in favor of single family houses, then Köniz is definitely not on our check list.
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Re: single family house close to Bern - but where exactly?

As you probably realise there are 3 taxes to pay on your income and assets, federal, cantonal, and local.

http://www.estv2.admin.ch/d/dienstle...uerrechner.htm

select the appropriate Canton and 2014, and then select your village and complete the form with personal details. You will then receive the tax calculation. Canton Bern has quite high taxation, Canton Freiburg/Fribourg is lower. Coming from Zurich you might have a surprise!
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Re: single family house close to Bern - but where exactly?

Bern does indeed have quite high taxes, but you will also find that rent is cheaper so I'm not sure if it's something to stress over. From what I can tell cost of housing and rent often adjusts to each other in the major cities. We love living here and I would not for a second consider moving to Kerzers etc to save on taxes.... but then again, we are happy apartment dwellers. In Bern I would look at Bremgarten bei Bern, Belp and Wabern. If you have the money, Lorraine and Breitenrain are the in-city neighbourhoods considered the nicest (single house will be hard to find). A general advice if you're picky about this sort of stuff is to look south and north of the city (incl. Muri) as east (ostermundigen) and west (Bumpliz and Bethlehem) are slightly more ghetto with high numbers of immigrants. Then again, we live close to Bumpliz and there are some areas with nice apartments (not sure how easy it will be to find single house). I wouldn't mind living there myself, but I need to be close to the main train station.

If you are ready to commute Fribourg is beautiful, only 24 minutes away. If you have friends in ZH that you are planning on visiting, Thun doesn't have very good connections but is indeed a gorgeous little town. Besides that I only know Düdingen and the surrounding villages (St. Ursen, Tafers, etc) and can say that my husband and his friends grew up there and it seems a very safe and lovely place for children to grow up. My husband is still involved in local organisations although he hasn't lived there for 7 years. That being said I wouldn't live there unless I had kids and wanted a house or duplex. So, depends on your lifestyle.
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Re: single family house close to Bern - but where exactly?

[QUOTE=bathbomb;2387123]Bern does indeed have quite high taxes, but you will also find that rent is cheaper so I'm not sure if it's something to stress over. From what I can tell cost of housing and rent often adjusts to each other in the major cities./QUOTE]

yes, I did realize that rents and prices of properties (at least for the properties we are looking for) are much cheaper than in Zurich so I can live with higher taxes. As far as I can see we can buy a new house around Bern for the price I can only dream of in Zürich, besides, the plot sizes are much more generous than in Zürich. Good sign.

But I am pretty sure now, we will have to look for a temporary apartment, hopefully with a garden, before we buy/build the house.

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If you are ready to commute Fribourg is beautiful, only 24 minutes away. If you have friends in ZH that you are planning on visiting, Thun doesn't have very good connections but is indeed a gorgeous little town. Besides that I only know Düdingen and the surrounding villages (St. Ursen, Tafers, etc) and can say that my husband and his friends grew up there and it seems a very safe and lovely place for children to grow up. My husband is still involved in local organisations although he hasn't lived there for 7 years. That being said I wouldn't live there unless I had kids and wanted a house or duplex. So, depends on your lifestyle.
Yes, Fribourg sounds interesting too. But we don't speak French so we are not sure if it makes sense to move there... We shall see.
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We live in Muri - and like it :-)
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Yes, Fribourg sounds interesting too. But we don't speak French so we are not sure if it makes sense to move there... We shall see.
Düdingen is German-speaking and on the mainline from Fribourg to Bern (S1 train only). It has pretty good amenities and you're on the doorstep of the countryside.
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