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Do you know a good home security alarm/system?

Security first right! We're looking at buying one of those home security alarms or systems (whatever) which would include the following:


- the alarm goes off if anyone tries to break into the apartment from outside
- a sensory light for the balcony / living room window to automatically turn on if someone gets close to the windows
- an sms alert (or whatever it is my fiance is talking about!) to let you know if the alarm goes off when you're not home
- a camera for our balcony door to catch those would-be thieves!


We're doing our own research across the Internet and have read the threads here that already discuss some suggestions (some of them are from a few years ago, and/or specifically talk about security companies and their offers, whereas we're looking for recommendations on actual systems to purchase ourselves instead of companies to work with i.e. for monitoring etc), but would love some specific recommendations of brands / models if you have experience with these.


Thanks so much in advance. Any tips and advice are welcomed and appreciated!
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The sensor lights can be very irritating to everyone around as they go on & off when the wind blows, when a cat goes by etc. Conrad has a bunch of stuff.
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Re: Do you know a good home security alarm/system?

Thanks for the tips neddy! If the lights are that sensitive, we'll have to reconsider whether we should use one! :S We're on Conrad already, great site - just hoping for some specific model recommendations now, whether from Switzerland, Germany or UK (price comparisons etc).


Forgot to add, we're also thinking of "reinforcers" for the doors and windows (I'm not sure what it's called specifically) but it's something that you can do to the doors and windows so that even if they're open a little, no-one from the outside can wedge them open further (without of course just simply breaking the glass/door). If anyone knows what I'm talking about here, a helping hand to some specific models would be great!
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Re: Do you know a good home security alarm/system?

For an apartment, you should install a decent bar and lock across the door. Then you won't need any flashing lights, which people ignore anyway!

Most front doors are too weak, and can easily be broken open with a long lever, so fitting any small strong lock to the door is a waste of time. But after installing a lockable bar across the door, an entrance without a key is extremely difficult, and once the thieves see the keyhole in the center of the door, they do not attempt to break it open.

http://www.abus.com/uk/Security-at-H...rity/Door-bars

Any security company will sell you one of these, sometimes you find them in DIY stores. But be warned, they are difficult to install, as you need to make 2 very large holes in the wall, on each side of the door.

Solutions for windows, http://www.abus.com/uk/Security-at-Home/Window-security
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We're looking at buying one of those home security alarms or systems
Have you had a look at Swisscom SmartLife already (http://www.swisscom-smartlife.ch/)?

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Thanks a lot Sbrinz! I'll run it past the man of the house and see what he thinks

daffy99 that could be just the thing that my fiance is interested in. Love the video too


If anyone knows of similar options by other brands/models and/or from other countries (to compare prices), I'm all ears!

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Re: Do you know a good home security alarm/system?

I use swisscom's previous system Quing, which is now being replaced for free by the new Swisscom system. There has been complaints(search the forums) but for me it worked perfectly after a problematic start.

I think there is a system called RWE, and also a system from Siemens which you can get from digitec. Search under home automation.

For the sensor spot lamp outside, you can get the lamp from coop Bau& hobby and install it yourself or get an electrician to install it for you. The easier option is to replace an existing lamp with one that is sensor operated.
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Forgot to add, we're also thinking of "reinforcers" for the doors and windows (I'm not sure what it's called specifically) but it's something that you can do to the doors and windows so that even if they're open a little, no-one from the outside can wedge them open further (without of course just simply breaking the glass/door). If anyone knows what I'm talking about here, a helping hand to some specific models would be great!
Are they modern doors and windows?

Do the handles have locks on them? Replacing the handles with lockable ones is an easy way to add a bit of security.

Our window makers suggested that an easy way to make a sliding patio door impossible to open is to wedge a length of wood across the bottom between the door and the wall (when the door is closed and locked). Even if the thief breaks the lock, he still can't open the door.
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Re: Do you know a good home security alarm/system?

ummmm guys is anyone aware that such things arent necessary in switzerland
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Really? Good luck then
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Re: Do you know a good home security alarm/system?

How about the old school sensors without lights?

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ummmm guys is anyone aware that such things arent necessary in switzerland
They weren't only very recently but the number of posts on this forum reporting being burgled is a clear indication that the problem is getting worse.
Open borders makes it easier too.
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Most regrettably this was only correct until a few years ago. The significantly increased mobility across borders combined with the (perceived) difference in wealth has resulted in increased levels of crime in exposed areas.
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/cops-and...wave-/35594462
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Re: Do you know a good home security alarm/system?

Tom1234, yep modern doors and windows, but no locks on the handles. That's something we already plan to change, but good to hear it's worthwhile.


I like your window maker's suggestion. I'll add it to our considerations (but will gladly leave it to my fiance to decide on )


Thanks again Tom1234!


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Do the handles have locks on them? Replacing the handles with lockable ones is an easy way to add a bit of security.

Our window makers suggested that an easy way to make a sliding patio door impossible to open is to wedge a length of wood across the bottom between the door and the wall (when the door is closed and locked). Even if the thief breaks the lock, he still can't open the door.

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Re: Do you know a good home security alarm/system?

I'd love it to not be the case, and whilst, thankfully (touch wood) my time in Switzerland has so far been great (8 years so far) and Switzerland is definitely one of the safer countries I've lived in, we'd rather our new place be as secure as we can make it - no harm in being overly cautious!


Thanks for your input though zmaster1911


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Re: Do you know a good home security alarm/system?

sorry, im rather new to the swiss lifestyle, but coming from the crime capital of the world (johannesburg) its rather refreshing not seeing 3m+ walls lined with spikes, electric fences, motion sensor cameras, patrolling guards and closed off areas. in addition its relaxing not having to carry a gun and use it frequently when someone attempts to hijack you almost weekly, and to be able to walk calmly at any odd hour of the night in any area of the country.

best of luck in your search
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No apology necessary! I can absolutely understand your view zmaster1911, with the Jo'burg upbringing. What a way to live I've read so much about it and heard so many first-hand experiences from Saffas about exactly as you mention, and when I visited there myself I saw it with my own eyes so I can imagine your comparison between South Africa (or Jo'burg specifically) and Switzerland is a big and refreshing change. Good for you


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sorry, im rather new to the swiss lifestyle, but coming from the crime capital of the world (johannesburg) its rather refreshing not seeing 3m+ walls lined with spikes, electric fences, motion sensor cameras, patrolling guards and closed off areas. in addition its relaxing not having to carry a gun and use it frequently when someone attempts to hijack you almost weekly, and to be able to walk calmly at any odd hour of the night in any area of the country.

best of luck in your search

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My brother has a shop ... I can send you some brochures if needed. He's selling some interesting wifi systems (no cabling needed) with batteries lasting 3 years .
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Do you know a good home security alarm/system?

Just a few notes: window locks don't really help as most burglars use a lever to lift the window out of its hinges rather than breaking the glass (as that makes too much noise).

There are options that will protect windows against this but for a mid-sized house, that'll cost a fortune. They're around 500 bucks per window, if you have 15 of them: go figure. And if the burglar can't lift the window frame, he'll likely break the glass after all and the whole protection system is for nothing. Overall, nothing within a normal budget will keep a burglar out. So it's more important to make your home a less attractive target:

- install automatic outdoor lights
- install an alarm system and put warning stickers all over the place (sounds simplistic, but the stickers can be very effective)

I'm experimenting with Swisscom Smartlife at the moment as I got it for free (had Quing before but didn't actually use it). It's not as customizable as a dedicated alarm system, but it adds the benefit of simulating that someone's at home by remote controlling the lights. It's also much cheaper than installing a proprietary system. It comes with an integrated GSM module if it loses the network connection, has a backup battery and will even go off if a signal jamming attempt is detected. It's quite sophisticated, really. You can set up notification via email, SMS, phone calls and push notification to your phone. Unlimited notifications are included in the monthly subscription (which starts at about 10 bucks - not too bad).

The other good thing about it is the fact that it's easily extensible into a full-fledged home automation system as well, once they've added more components, such as light switches etc.

The downside: the police don't show up automatically if an alarm goes off - you have to manually call them once you've been notified. Also, the coverage of the RF modules is relatively modest and as of this time, there are no signal repeaters available from Swisscom. This means that if you have a large home, coverage might not be enough.

We have a dedicated alarm system that's hooked up to a response central and we use RWE smartphone for home automation, but I'd love to have a single system that covers both aspects.
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Thanks aviscido. I'll let you know if we need them.


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