Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Housing in general  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 05.08.2015, 10:13
Longbyt's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: ZH
Posts: 8,130
Groaned at 57 Times in 53 Posts
Thanked 12,980 Times in 4,732 Posts
Longbyt has a reputation beyond reputeLongbyt has a reputation beyond reputeLongbyt has a reputation beyond reputeLongbyt has a reputation beyond reputeLongbyt has a reputation beyond reputeLongbyt has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

'the residence permit' means exactly what?
Did you read the relevant bit in the link I gave or check out 'short-term'
Quote:
View Post
The first set of problem is I don't know German yet.

I capitulate. Over and out.

Last edited by Longbyt; 05.08.2015 at 10:28. Reason: added quote
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 05.08.2015, 10:13
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Manhattan Beach, California
Posts: 17
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Miranti has no particular reputation at present
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

@Longbyt that's what the insurance are for in case the business can't be operated any further. Insurance will be paying all the wages and rent. It's the requirement of Swiss government for any foreigner who want to start a business in Switzerland. As long as there is a proof that the business still running, all taxes are paid, they're not going to turn down the permit. (it's not very wise decision to stop the residency status of the business owner while the business still running, right) The decision to close the business is also up to the owner not the government.
Reply With Quote
This user groans at Miranti for this post:
  #23  
Old 05.08.2015, 10:14
Medea Fleecestealer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 21,387
Groaned at 369 Times in 284 Posts
Thanked 16,190 Times in 9,197 Posts
Medea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

Excuse me, but why do you think you can just turn up and start living and working in Switzerland? Non-EU nationals need to have a pre-approved job offer or be independently wealthy enough that they don't need to work. You can't just arrive and start a business here, it's simply not allowed. Even if you open a Swiss GmbH that company would have to prove it couldn't find a Swiss/EU national who could do any of the jobs you think you're going to do. And a GmbH would also need someone who's either a Swiss national or already resident in Switzerland to act as one of the company directors. Plus you need approval from the Swiss authorities of your business plan/financial status, etc. Just having enough money isn't enough - you need to prove you're going to be adding things like jobs, etc.

http://www.kmu.admin.ch/kmu-gruenden...x.html?lang=en

Do not necessarily believe what the consulate tell you. If it were that easy, everyone would be doing it.

No you're incorrect and mirfield/meloncollie are right. You think the 90 days period will start anew once you leave and then come back, but the rules changed in December 2014. Use the tool this website will link you to to calculate your overstay under the new rule.

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home...tsrechner.html

You're effectively allowed 90 days and then cannot return to Switzerland/Schengen until another 90 days have passed - it doesn't matter whether you need a tourist visa or not. Overstaying can result in a fine, a record of the overstay on your travel info or even an outright ban of at least a year.

http://www.euro-dollar-currency.com/...engen_visa.htm

Working rough figures (15th October to 2nd December and 15th December to 31st January) under the old rule you would have been fine in that your stays would have been of 47 days each. But under the new rule you'd be here for a total of 94 days so over your 90 day limit.

a) you need to do a LOT more research before you even think of doing this, particularly about the laws of entry, residence, etc, with regard to setting up your own business.

b) I'd advise waiting until you have permission to actually live/work here before moving any pets.

Last edited by Medea Fleecestealer; 05.08.2015 at 10:26.
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank Medea Fleecestealer for this useful post:
  #24  
Old 05.08.2015, 10:25
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Tessin
Posts: 6,149
Groaned at 122 Times in 89 Posts
Thanked 7,259 Times in 3,419 Posts
Mrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

Pet friendly rental housing is almost always a challenge. Most of the Swiss sites where you can advertise looking for housing are filled with owners of pets looking for housing. These people are not tourists, they live here, and likely speak the local language. Many have large dogs and this is particularly a challenge.


Then once someone is lucky enough to find something where the landlord is okay with pets, the next issue is are the pets left alone all day, or for extended hours.


I would rent to someone with pets, but not to to someone who is a tourist. I just see this as too much of a risk for many reasons.


I think you need to consider the needs of your pets and balance this with your aspirations. Life in Switzerland is not as pet friendly as you may have imagined.
__________________

Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Mrs. Doolittle for this useful post:
  #25  
Old 05.08.2015, 10:35
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Manhattan Beach, California
Posts: 17
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Miranti has no particular reputation at present
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

@meloncollie I do the opposite. If my dog don't like Switzerland, I am not going to go further. It's not about the immigration. There are more than one opportunity presented to me about my first restaurant idea and I just considered Switzerland first because not only I like the food supplies there, but also I don't want to start learning French or Italian since German is a little easier to me compare to the other two.

I move as a pack. So, my dog decision is as important as mine (especially when I have choices). My dog don't like cold and rain that's why I want to try it out with her first. To leave her in CA isn't going to complete my try out period. My concern is the same as you. I don't want to stress her out unnecessarily. She's the dog that love routine but if I move, she has to move.

I don't know who you have met at the consulate. They're all nice even though quite formal for Americans. They gave very through advises. I think you probably don't know that these days Switzerland need more investors who can provide jobs for the citizen. That's from what I've been told from the consulate.

Restaurant isn't an easy business for an inexperience person but there are many restaurants that are successful, even more so than the failed one.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 05.08.2015, 10:41
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Tessin
Posts: 6,149
Groaned at 122 Times in 89 Posts
Thanked 7,259 Times in 3,419 Posts
Mrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

Quote:
View Post
I think you probably don't know that these days Switzerland need more investors who can provide jobs for the citizen. That's from what I've been told from the consulate.
How many jobs is a restaurant really going to provide?

Last edited by 3Wishes; 06.08.2015 at 22:56. Reason: fixed quoting
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Mrs. Doolittle for this useful post:
  #27  
Old 05.08.2015, 10:41
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Manhattan Beach, California
Posts: 17
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Miranti has no particular reputation at present
@Medea Fleecestealer Wow...It's interesting that your assumption is I'm going to just go there and starting a business without any experience, no partner, no informations.

I assumed that everyone in this forum are advising base on a good positive attitude and wish ing me well. I found myself talking more about my business than about my problem renting with pets.

What's going on here? I though I asked question about how to do short term furnish rental with pets!

@Mrs. Doolittle I think so too.

What would be the ultimate for a tourist to rent your apartment?

Can I buy an insurance?

I don't think I will be leaving my dog alone in the apartment for long. (Even though she would prefer that!)

@Mrs Doolittle At the least 5 at the most 25 but the consulate is considered the idea and the project.

Last edited by 3Wishes; 06.08.2015 at 22:57. Reason: merging consecutive replies
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 05.08.2015, 10:49
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

Sweetie, opening as business to get a resident permit is far too easy, you don't think nobody else has ever thought about opeing some restaurant/clothing/whatever biz to get a permit ?

Buying an exisitng business is expensive and as you obviously have some idea in your head, what is point of buying a fondue place if you want to open a Chinese restaurant or whatever ?

Meloncollie gave you good advice about your dog, it might be the nicest dog in the world, but the law is the law, and they are not interested in any problems so this will be difficult.

Money, you'll need a lot to set up and keep yourself going, there are already plenty of restaurants here, so it will take time.

Interesting investement, think Chf 10mio, here people may begin to take a vague interest in you, below this, your just not interesting.

It's just not going to happen and the dog only compounds the problem, i admire your devotion to your dog but..........

PS Switzerland is cold, wet and snowy in winter time, approx 4 months/year and your dog doesn't like this...............
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #29  
Old 05.08.2015, 12:21
Medea Fleecestealer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 21,387
Groaned at 369 Times in 284 Posts
Thanked 16,190 Times in 9,197 Posts
Medea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

Quote:
View Post
@Medea Fleecestealer Wow...It's interesting that your assumption is I'm going to just go there and starting a business without any experience, no partner, no informations.

I assumed that everyone in this forum are advising base on a good positive attitude and wish ing me well. I found myself talking more about my business than about my problem renting with pets.

What's going on here? I though I asked question about how to do short term furnish rental with pets!
This is a forum so expecting everyone to wish you well is stretching it a bit. While I'm sure we do, your posts so far come across as someone who hasn't researched or been given good info so we can see disaster looming on the horizon. Your ignorance of the 90 day rule change doesn't inspire confidence in the rest of your plans.

And yes, we ask about your business plans because that affects you and your pets. If you cannot get permission to live/work here the accommodation question is mute. And as Mrs Doolittle points out, it's unlikely landlords/agencies are going to rent to a tourist coming with pets, especially a large dog.

You seem to think that you can do a test run for a few months, but if you're going to be here for more than 90 days you have to register as resident here and for that you as a non-EU national need a pre-approved permit, that's the law. So you either cut short your test run, adding to the stress on your pets by moving here and then moving back to the US again, or you go the whole hog, forget the test altogether and apply for the permit. And if you think you can stay for 90 days and then apply for the permit, I'm sorry, but think again. That will entail moving back out of Switzerland, pets and all, while you wait for a decision on your permit. Plus you also need a Type D visa to enter Switzerland long term legally.

Have you even checked what you need to do to bring your pets over with you as far as vaccinations, microchipping, etc, are concerned? If not, check on the BLV website here:

http://www.blv.admin.ch/themen/04670...x.html?lang=en
Reply With Quote
The following 7 users would like to thank Medea Fleecestealer for this useful post:
  #30  
Old 05.08.2015, 18:38
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: USA, former Zurich
Posts: 2,049
Groaned at 14 Times in 14 Posts
Thanked 4,811 Times in 1,660 Posts
BokerTov has a reputation beyond reputeBokerTov has a reputation beyond reputeBokerTov has a reputation beyond reputeBokerTov has a reputation beyond reputeBokerTov has a reputation beyond reputeBokerTov has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

Quote:
View Post
I assumed that everyone in this forum are advising base on a good positive attitude and wish ing me well. I found myself talking more about my business than about my problem renting with pets.
Miranti, please understand that this is not "just" an internet forum, but a community of people who care for each other (except for the odd ball here and there), many of whom know each other in real life. The way I see it, is that people are trying to be helpful and warn you about the potential hoops that you may encounter on your path due to your particular circumstances. You do have several things to worry about, as it was already pointed out to you, and I agree with the other posters that, due to regulatory developments in both CH and the USA, being American might be a bigger obstacle for you to overcome than ensuring your dogs are settled, which is also very important. This is entirely my personal opinion, but based on facts/experience.

I am sure you are a well informed individual who has done his research and knows the ins and outs, but there has been an incredible number of posts from people who absolutely want to move to CH without a clue of what it entails, ignore the advice from forum members, and next thing you know, they hate everything and wish they had followed the advice. As I said, I am sure it's not your case, so...good luck!

P.S. Edit/addition: of course the embassy/consulate people are trying to up-sell their country, that's their job! The goal of every diplomatic mission of any given country, in any given country, is to promote the commercial interests of that country abroad. This is definitely not the goal of the people in CH who will be reviewing your paperwork and approving (or not) your immigration into the country.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank BokerTov for this useful post:
  #31  
Old 05.08.2015, 20:24
Medea Fleecestealer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 21,387
Groaned at 369 Times in 284 Posts
Thanked 16,190 Times in 9,197 Posts
Medea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

Something else that should be mentioned (and many here will wonder why I haven't said this already ) is the US tax implications and the problems you will have in getting a Swiss bank account here.

As a US national you're required to file US tax returns no matter where you live in the world and could owe the US tax on top of your Swiss ones. Start your research here:

http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/Inter...-Aliens-Abroad

To be able to open a basic checking account outside of the US you will need to sign a W-9 form so the bank can pass the account info on to the IRS. Any "foreign", i.e. outside of US, account/s you have which come to an aggregate amount of over $10,000 at any time of the year will also have to be reported on an FBAR form. However, more importantly for your business plan is that most Swiss banks will no longer allow Americans to have a business bank account because these accounts also have to be reported on a W-9 and they don't want the extra paperwork and cost of the additional FATCA compliance.

If you don't know what all this is about google FATCA and you'll find plenty of info on the subject and the misery it's caused for thousands of Americans living abroad. There are also plenty of threads on this subject in the Finance/Taxation section of the forum so do a search there too.

Bear in mind, this isn't just Switzerland but would affect you no matter where you tried to set up a business outside of the US.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Medea Fleecestealer for this useful post:
  #32  
Old 05.08.2015, 20:55
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

Quote:
View Post
The first set of problem is I don't know German yet.
You need to learn it, and very quickly and efficiently at that, if you want to run a business in CH.

Quote:
View Post
@Longbyt I talked to the consulate here in Los Angeles all about starting the restaurant business and getting the resident permit, so all of that part is taken care of.
Did you get anything in writing regarding the permitted maximum length of your stay?

Quote:
View Post
I know about the 90 days limit but I'm leaving in the beginning of December for 10 days to go to Bangkok. So, that's not the problem with the long stay
If you're intending to do this to "extend" or "restart" your 90 day stay, DO. NOT. DO. IT.

Quote:
View Post
Excuse me, but why do you think you can just turn up and start living and working in Switzerland? Non-EU nationals need to have a pre-approved job offer or be independently wealthy enough that they don't need to work. You can't just arrive and start a business here, it's simply not allowed. Even if you open a Swiss GmbH that company would have to prove it couldn't find a Swiss/EU national who could do any of the jobs you think you're going to do. And a GmbH would also need someone who's either a Swiss national or already resident in Switzerland to act as one of the company directors. Plus you need approval from the Swiss authorities of your business plan/financial status, etc. Just having enough money isn't enough - you need to prove you're going to be adding things like jobs, etc.

http://www.kmu.admin.ch/kmu-gruenden...x.html?lang=en

Do not necessarily believe what the consulate tell you. If it were that easy, everyone would be doing it.

No you're incorrect and mirfield/meloncollie are right. You think the 90 days period will start anew once you leave and then come back, but the rules changed in December 2014. Use the tool this website will link you to to calculate your overstay under the new rule.

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home...tsrechner.html

You're effectively allowed 90 days and then cannot return to Switzerland/Schengen until another 90 days have passed - it doesn't matter whether you need a tourist visa or not. Overstaying can result in a fine, a record of the overstay on your travel info or even an outright ban of at least a year.

http://www.euro-dollar-currency.com/...engen_visa.htm

Working rough figures (15th October to 2nd December and 15th December to 31st January) under the old rule you would have been fine in that your stays would have been of 47 days each. But under the new rule you'd be here for a total of 94 days so over your 90 day limit.

a) you need to do a LOT more research before you even think of doing this, particularly about the laws of entry, residence, etc, with regard to setting up your own business.

b) I'd advise waiting until you have permission to actually live/work here before moving any pets.
MF's right.

Get all permits and everything sorted before you come here, and then only stay for the duration you're permitted to, which is 90 days and not one extra.
Regarding your permit to live here, I strongly advise you to rely on written information you get from the ZH migration office if you contact them, rather than what the consulate in Los Angeles says, and to stick to what the ZH migration office people write to you.

Coming here and saying "he said" isn't going to help you.

And last but not least:

Quote:
View Post
I assumed that everyone in this forum are advising base on a good positive attitude and wish ing me well. I found myself talking more about my business than about my problem renting with pets.

What's going on here? I though I asked question about how to do short term furnish rental with pets!
a. If we didn't want to help you we wouldn't be posting advice in your thread.
b. You can't direct the direction of a thread, once posted, everyone's free to respond to what they deem relevant. And fact is that owning a listed dog without having gone through every single necessary test, while still being a huge problem, will probably run you into far less mess than fudging things up with your permits to live/work here.

Last edited by glowjupiter; 05.08.2015 at 21:05.
Reply With Quote
The following 7 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #33  
Old 05.08.2015, 22:21
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ticino
Posts: 2,872
Groaned at 91 Times in 63 Posts
Thanked 3,659 Times in 1,471 Posts
Snoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

To be honest, I am more than slightly bemused that someone wants to come here to open a restaurant. Unless it is something so far out that Zurich has never seen I would say that is an amazing gamble. There are so many restaurants that go out of business.

I don't know what research the OP has done, but it all sounds pie-in-the-sky to me...
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Snoopy for this useful post:
  #34  
Old 05.08.2015, 23:15
Longbyt's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: ZH
Posts: 8,130
Groaned at 57 Times in 53 Posts
Thanked 12,980 Times in 4,732 Posts
Longbyt has a reputation beyond reputeLongbyt has a reputation beyond reputeLongbyt has a reputation beyond reputeLongbyt has a reputation beyond reputeLongbyt has a reputation beyond reputeLongbyt has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

Check out her home-page though.
At least it's not your run of the mill pie-in-the-sky.
It's high class Thai-pie-in-the-sky.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Longbyt for this useful post:
  #35  
Old 05.08.2015, 23:22
Belgianmum's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Neuchâtel
Posts: 11,644
Groaned at 181 Times in 163 Posts
Thanked 18,228 Times in 7,686 Posts
Belgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

Quote:
View Post
Check out her home-page though.
At least it's not your run of the mill pie-in-the-sky.
It's high class Thai-pie-in-the-sky.
And there was I thinking she was a he. I can't think why really....... Oh yes it was the attitude.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank Belgianmum for this useful post:
  #36  
Old 05.08.2015, 23:54
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ticino
Posts: 2,872
Groaned at 91 Times in 63 Posts
Thanked 3,659 Times in 1,471 Posts
Snoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond reputeSnoopy has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

Quote:
View Post
Check out her home-page though.
At least it's not your run of the mill pie-in-the-sky.
It's high class Thai-pie-in-the-sky.
Admittedly, the food does look good....
Fine, I will keep my negative thoughts to myself.
I will even become a promoter if EF members are granted a significant discount if/when the restaurant opens....
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Snoopy for this useful post:
  #37  
Old 06.08.2015, 00:12
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

30 to 40% of restaurants in Switzerland fail, depending on area- an amazing turnover.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #38  
Old 06.08.2015, 07:20
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Manhattan Beach, California
Posts: 17
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Miranti has no particular reputation at present
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

I am frankly discourage to come back in here by most of the answers, unfortunately. I think I might not be so clear about what I do since I don't feel the need to put my business plan here on the forum. It's not related to the question I asked. All I am asking is to find a place so I can test living in Zurich with my dog before I proceed further with my plan.

I do have my business plan that I have been sculpting and perfecting with all the financial and every bit and pieces put in places. It passed the approval at the office of the consulate general in the business department here in CA from both offices actually LA and SF. They will be the one that has to approve my long stay visa so I can find the last piece of information, location to open the first one. Then I can apply to get the permit to run the business. Is this information needed or related to the rental with dogs?...I think not.

Before I proceed further with my plan, I want to do the test living and why is that decision is matter so much? I don't understand. It's a matter of choice and that was my choice. I have more than one location that I considered, not only Switzerland but I chose Switzerland because of the excellent quality of the food supplies. I chose Zurich because my dog can't live in Geneva and Zurich will be more acceptant to the type of the place I want to open. Do I really need to report this to the forum? I also don't think it's related to the rental with dog.

Some people here made an assumption even before knowing me or reading my business plan that I shouldn't open my restaurant in Zurich. May I ask why so? Are you being a stereo type? Do you have an insight of my business plan and knowing full well that it is going to fail same as the rest of the failed one? I rather amazed.

Some people even mentioned that a ten million dollars business plan has been turned down and if I'm rich enough I would get my lawyer to negotiate for me and whouldn't be in this forum myself. Not true! Go work at the consulate general in the business department and you will know. Test living is personal choice and is not coming out of the business expense. Yes, I can use lawyer but why do I have to double the cost of living when I don't necessary have to. This way I get to know the people that might be my neighbors, my employees and my customers. Do I impress with the result? Totally not.

"Pie in the sky" great, are you judging the book by its cover?

I understand that the forum is the real people behind the keyboard and monitor. I actually coming in here for that. The result isn't what I expected at all. I don't find people here are friendly or kind. The answer aren't focus on my living situation but more on the regulations and read in between the lines about how "unprepared" I am. Yes, I'm unprepared about this trip, It's just the last minute panic reaction. All of the plan is moving toward Zurich that wet and cold in winter. How horrible my life will be if my dog isn't going to pee in snow when I only have 15 minutes to walk her in the morning. That kind of panic. If she's depressed the whole winter and tear my furniture as a hobby, my life will be in hell. I don't also want to come into the country on my long stay visa that I suppose to focus on looking for a location for a place to find out that I can't live there because of the dog problem. It would ruined my professional reputation for dead sure. Yes, professional reputation of the "pie in the sky" that someone had said...Thanks you...Very unfriendly of you to say especially when you only know the person just from a blog.

I understand all the red tape that most of you are trying to tell me and appreciate all the warnings but I try to get past that because I already dealt with most of them or someone else already worked out the kinks but I don't want to spend time explaining since it's not relate to the question. My focus is still on trying to find the place where I can bring the dog.

I missed the 90 days/180 days is seems to give a lot for this forum to discuss. I'm sorry about that this is the first semi-business trip that I have to arrange all on my own in four years, so I'm rustic. Of course I missed the most important part of it...shit happened! (Still thankful to melloncollie for mentioned that)

I don't think I am going to give up two years planning because people in this forum or on Facebook group said I shouldn't. If I do I am not who I am. I had started many successful dot.com business in the past because I made the impossible possible and I am going to do it again. Twenty years in my entrepreneur business reputation isn't going to taint with one fail business (if it fail but I don't think it will), I'm sure.

Judge all you want but don't forget that you don't know me and I don't know you.

Thanks for all the advises.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 06.08.2015, 07:37
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Manhattan Beach, California
Posts: 17
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Miranti has no particular reputation at present
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

@Medea Fleecestealer Don't worry about the W-9 and all the US taxes, my accountant in the US will do that part and I will have another one in Zurich to double check that but I don't expect to pay any US taxes in the first year because the income has to exceed $190,000/p/y for double taxes. I am not giving myself that much money the first year.

Also thanks for the pets link. My vet already dealt with that too. They're all have chips fortunately the chips I put in since puppy/kitty were EURO readable. I will have to deal with registering them when I really relocate. The vet there already told me he can take care of them for me. (If i ever relocate of course) Unfortunately I have to bring them back to the US because I still need about 2-3 months back here in CA to finishing up all the paperwork and the funniest part is. I have to follow the US regulation for importing pets even though they just left the country a few months ago.

I also cut my trip short to Nov-Feb. I've been told that the coldest month is Feb. If I and my peep can survive those 3 months then we're golden.
Reply With Quote
This user groans at Miranti for this post:
  #40  
Old 06.08.2015, 08:09
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Need a furnished "PETS FRIENDLY" short term rental in Zurich for 3-4 months

Quote:
View Post
I am frankly discourage to come back in here by most of the answers, unfortunately. I think I might not be so clear about what I do since I don't feel the need to put my business plan here on the forum. It's not related to the question I asked. All I am asking is to find a place so I can test living in Zurich with my dog before I proceed further with my plan.

That's your choice.

I do have my business plan that I have been sculpting and perfecting with all the financial and every bit and pieces put in places. It passed the approval at the office of the consulate general in the business department here in CA from both offices actually LA and SF. They will be the one that has to approve my long stay visa so I can find the last piece of information, location to open the first one. Then I can apply to get the permit to run the business. Is this information needed or related to the rental with dogs?...I think not.

Before I proceed further with my plan, I want to do the test living and why is that decision is matter so much? I don't understand. It's a matter of choice and that was my choice. I also don't think it's related to the rental with dog.

I explained this in my last post.

Some people here made an assumption even before knowing me or reading my business plan that I shouldn't open my restaurant in Zurich. May I ask why so? Are you being a stereo type? Do you have an insight of my business plan and knowing full well that it is going to fail same as the rest of the failed one? I rather amazed.

Some, as opposed to you, live in or around Zurich (and in CH) and partly run businesses here and therefore see how well businesses run and how many businesses already exist in Zurich, know how great the possibility of failure is etc.

"Pie in the sky" great, are you judging the book by its cover?

As said elsewhere, if you don't want an opinion from others, don't post. If you consider most answers to be (negative) judgment, that's unfortunate.

I don't find people here are friendly or kind. The answer aren't focus on my living situation but more on the regulations and read in between the lines about how "unprepared" I am.

If you feel that you want answers pertaining exactly to your questions, then don't post. Maybe you'll be thankful for the advice given regarding your permits one day. I really don't get what's so bad about getting more advice than requested. IMO you're overreacting, sorry.

I don't think I am going to give up two years planning because people in this forum or on Facebook group said I shouldn't. If I do I am not who I am. I had started many successful dot.com business in the past because I made the impossible possible and I am going to do it again. Twenty years in my entrepreneur business reputation isn't going to taint with one fail business (if it fail but I don't think it will), I'm sure.

Only you will find out if you're being too optimistic or if you will do well or fail. Good luck with your business.

Judge all you want but don't forget that you don't know me and I don't know you.

I wouldn't call this judging, but if you feel you need to do so, that is your thing.

Thanks for all the advises.
Post is too short

Last edited by glowjupiter; 06.08.2015 at 08:26.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The value of "Swiss" Experience; should I apply for lower-level short-term positions? JDB210 Employment 2 25.07.2014 20:45
Apartment Rental Contract - Must Explicitly State "No Pets"? Hotspur Housing in general 18 20.11.2011 18:12


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 21:46.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0