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Re: American Expat Moving to Solothurn for work

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Hmm, how did you aquire such a perception? At least among the German-speaking Swiss, people from Berne are considered as propably the most cozy/friendly Swiss according to the majority!
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@OP: Advice no. 1 among the 101 for US-american expats in Switzerland: Start to learn about your future environment more profoundly, and more than you think, IF you do not like to become percieved as the usual, ugly, arrogant, and ignorant american berserker! There is more outside of your 4.5% minority of this world, and it looks quite different, I can tell you!
Dear OP: ignore this poster. He has an irrational hatred of Americans and insists on sharing this with us with almost every post. Note his use of the absurd phrase "US-American", for example, not to mention his tedious stereotyping of an entire nation of 300 million.

He did, however, make a valid point in his first paragraph: you need to erase the word "must" from your mental vocabulary, else you'll make yourself sick with frustration. As other members have observed, there are few expat clusters outside Geneva and Zurich, but that won't matter anyway once you're here.

My wife and I actually found that people were even more friendly once we'd moved into the heart of the Swiss country, as we are something of a novelty and the locals, more often than not, are delighted to meet us.
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Re: American Expat Moving to Solothurn for work

Solothurn's nice enough but it's kind of a regional city at best - no offence to any resident Solothurnians. It's like saying, "I am moving to Cleveland and I must live in a vibrant Finnish community. Where are the vibrant Finnish communities within 30 minutes of Cleveland, please?"

Having said that, there are two international schools in the area (I found that out by googling "solothurn international school" so I'm assuming you already found it too) so there must be a few English speakers around. I just don't think you'll find enough of them concentrated in any one suburb to constitute the "expat community" you are looking for. Better to focus on your other requirements/preferences, and then network with English-speaking folks as you find them.

As someone else said, walking distance of an international school is going to be the kicker. These tend to be in downtown areas so if you're near one of them you are probably near everything else on your list as well.
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Re: American Expat Moving to Solothurn for work

Hi Mullhollander,

I'm an American relocating to start working for a company in Zug soon, but I've been told Zurich is a better place to set up. Am I right in reading I got a restriction and can only live in Zug? Sorry if someone's already asked I just got on here.

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Your profile says that you are US citizen and, as such, would fall under the "third-country" (non-EU) work permit regulations. Of course, if you are in charge of constructing a new CHF 1 billion pharmaceutical factory in Solothurn, the authorities might allow you to live elsewhere. Consider having your HR department consult with an immigration attorney for clarification on that point.

Basel, Bern and Zurich are the closest major cities, ca. 45 min to 1 hr by train to Solothurn:

http://www.sbb.ch/en/home.html

Figure out where you wish to live and then search for an international school for your child. There's an English-speaking international protestant church in Zurich.
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Hi Mullhollander,

I'm an American relocating to start working for a company in Zug soon, but I've been told Zurich is a better place to set up. Am I right in reading I got a restriction and can only live in Zug? Sorry if someone's already asked I just got on here.

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Non-EU/EFTA citizens with a B work permit are restricted to living in the canton which granted the work permit.

If you want to live in Canton Zurich, there are possibly two options:
1) Ct. Zurich initially grants the B work permit for your job in Ct. Zug, allowing you to live in Ct. Zurich, or:
2) After obtaining a B work permit in Ct. Zug and living there for a time, you request a change of canton (Kantonswechsel) from Ct. Zug to Ct. Zurich. Both cantons must agree to the change.

Ct. Aargau has a detail explanation and process to apply for a change of canton for non-EU/EFTA citizens at this link:
https://www.ag.ch/de/dvi/migration_i...ctionId=174630

Please keep in mind that this is a general message board. If this is really important to you, would suggest discussing it with your HR department.
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Re: American Expat Moving to Solothurn for work

Solothurn's international school has been losing money as the managers have often been away, and the school has not been operating well.
There have recently been new investors, but the future remains uncertain.

A professional couple send their son there, about 8 years old, who seems to be happy there.

http://is-so.ch/ https://www.facebook.com/internationalschoolsolothurn

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Re: American Expat Moving to Solothurn for work

Thanks man really good advice

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Non-EU/EFTA citizens with a B work permit are restricted to living in the canton which granted the work permit.

If you want to live in Canton Zurich, there are possibly two options:
1) Ct. Zurich initially grants the B work permit for your job in Ct. Zug, allowing you to live in Ct. Zurich, or:
2) After obtaining a B work permit in Ct. Zug and living there for a time, you request a change of canton (Kantonswechsel) from Ct. Zug to Ct. Zurich. Both cantons must agree to the change.

Ct. Aargau has a detail explanation and process to apply for a change of canton for non-EU/EFTA citizens at this link:
https://www.ag.ch/de/dvi/migration_i...ctionId=174630

Please keep in mind that this is a general message board. If this is really important to you, would suggest discussing it with your HR department.
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Re: American Expat Moving to Solothurn for work

Wow, reading this from the OP, I see why people think the way they do about us Americans.
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Re: American Expat Moving to Solothurn for work

Wait till she sees the size of the oven and fridge!!
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Wait till she sees the size of the oven and fridge!!
If she has slim hips, it won't trouble her...
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Wow, reading this from the OP, I see why people think the way they do about us Americans.
To give her credit, she didn't casually mention her exact salary ( usually in the 200+ range) and then ask if she would still be able to maintain their humble standard of living. Nor did she enquire how to import her BMW or ask about proper equestrian training for the child who is already showing Olympic level prowess.

Yet...
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Hi Mullhollander,

I'm an American relocating to start working for a company in Zug soon, but I've been told Zurich is a better place to set up. Am I right in reading I got a restriction and can only live in Zug? Sorry if someone's already asked I just got on here.

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In American standards Zug is almost like a "neighborhood" of Zürich. The train takes just +-25 minutes to reach Zürich HB and by car it's 35 minutes. Furthermore, taxes are lower in Zug and depending on your income you can save quite a bit. If I were you, I would initially experience Zug for a year and then decide whether it's worth to commute everyday from/to Zürich.
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Hi Mullhollander,

I'm an American relocating to start working for a company in Zug soon, but I've been told Zurich is a better place to set up. Am I right in reading I got a restriction and can only live in Zug? Sorry if someone's already asked I just got on here.

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Hi Tom, it would be nice if the next time you have a question, you don't hi-jack a thread about Solothurn, with a question about Zug, which is the other side of the next canton. Please instead start a new thread, or even better: use the search function and read what has been said already.
http://www.englishforum.ch/search2.php?q=Zug
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Re: American Expat Moving to Solothurn for work

Hi Mullhallander,

I have not found that the restriction of living in the canton of Solothurn a reality
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Hi Mullhallander,

I have not found that the restriction of living in the canton of Solothurn a reality
That is excellent. Would you be able to elaborate on it? Does that mean that you are allowed to live in a canton different than the one that issued the work permit, or are you required to live in the canton that issued it but the issuing canton is not Solothurn? Would be interested to learn more to understand the practicalities of this process. Thanks.
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Re: American Expat Moving to Solothurn for work

I informed the immigration service provider of where I wanted to live and it was taken care of. I am not aware of the specifics. Hope this helps
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Re: American Expat Moving to Solothurn for work

Hello Pacc,
Moving to Switz is a great experience for your family. Having said that, it does and will take an open mind to adjust well, it takes some time to figure things out and learn new ways of doing things, and some flexibility on your (our) part.
At first, it can seem very cumbersome...even a bit 'fish out of water'. But with a little time and good attitude (not always easy to maintain), you and your family will be fine. Find some other expats through the kids school and they will help you with the small nuances that need to be learned.
One thing, I dont know your financial numbers, but what seems like a large stipend for living arrangements, may not be so large when you see the prices here. Be prepared for sticker shock on pretty much everything. A fill up at the gas station is 140chf. 6 eggs are 5.50...and your fridge and oven will likely not hold as much as you are used to.
Enjoy the experience to the max. It will be over before you know it, and you will have many fond memories of an experience that very few Americans ever get.
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I informed the immigration service provider of where I wanted to live and it was taken care of. I am not aware of the specifics. Hope this helps

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Hello Pacc,
Moving to Switz is a great experience for your family. Having said that, it does and will take an open mind to adjust well, it takes some time to figure things out and learn new ways of doing things, and some flexibility on your (our) part.
At first, it can seem very cumbersome...even a bit 'fish out of water'. But with a little time and good attitude (not always easy to maintain), you and your family will be fine. Find some other expats through the kids school and they will help you with the small nuances that need to be learned.
One thing, I dont know your financial numbers, but what seems like a large stipend for living arrangements, may not be so large when you see the prices here. Be prepared for sticker shock on pretty much everything. A fill up at the gas station is 140chf. 6 eggs are 5.50...and your fridge and oven will likely not hold as much as you are used to.
Enjoy the experience to the max. It will be over before you know it, and you will have many fond memories of an experience that very few Americans ever get.
Hope that helps.



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I informed the immigration service provider of where I wanted to live and it was taken care of. I am not aware of the specifics. Hope this helps
6 eggs 5.50 are they golden ? I buy mine from the local farm fresh out and they are 0.50 each.

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Re: American Expat Moving to Solothurn for work

Hi. I though I would shot gun some comments about your transition. I'm sure your company will assist you.


If you want an English speaking school, most "International Schools" will provide this. But, it will cost as it is private.


Switzerland is oriented to walking. Playgrounds are plentiful. You must balance your priorities such as commute, conveniences (shopping), family, climate etc.


Solothurn as a canton is a foggy place in the winters. There are in general not as many English speaking communities as Zürich, Basel or Geneva. They are more international. The old city of Solothurn is very beautiful and relatively quiet place after 6 o'clock.


Canton Bern may offer some advantages as well as living closer to Bern. It may not impact you, but I think Bern has a more family friendly tax structure. I can't provide details now.


Church is going to be a challenge. The Swiss have turned quite cold in the last 20 years regarding faith. Solothurn is a Catholic canton, so you will find fewer state protestant churches and services. They would be in German anyway. There are however English congregations especially in the large cities (e.g. Bern, Basel, Zürich and I'm sure Geneva).


Just a thought, if you can live at some elevation you might get above the fog somewhat. Plus, you would have your view of the alps. But, with a 6 yr old nearness to a playground is top priority.
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