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Im moving soon to Zurich from Netherlands to live with my girlfriend. The rental agreement is on her name. Can someone tell me what should I do since I need to bring it and its not on my name. Does she needs to write on a paper that she agrees that I will live with her, or she needs to call company that she rented apartment from and aske them to write on a paper that they agree with me living there.

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Re: Rental agreement

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Welcome to the Forum.

She will first need to ask Owner for permission through the agency to you living there.
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Welcome to the Forum.

She will first need to ask Owner for permission through the agency to you living there.
Hello and thank you.

But what if they say no? Because she already lives there with her friend and its a 2 bedroom apartment. I would be 3. person there, her friend will move out for few months out of a apartment. Can we tell them that I will live only few months there?
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Re: Rental agreement

Sorry I am no expert on this.

I would suggest honesty & politeness, as any lies will be probably quickly found out.

What is not clear is if the place is purely in her name or joint names, i.e. her and the other person.

I have no idea, maybe they would be ok with a third person, or possibly request addition to the rent etc.

If they say no, but it is your intention to only live there whilst the other person moves out for a time, perhaps there is some amendment that could be made to the agreement? - certainly you would need to pay for the full cost of any amendment to the agreement.

Hopefully her discussion/request to them, will be favourable & a solution found.

However on the negative aspect of no solution found, my suggestion would be to look for a room in an apartment on a shared basis. Sometimes people advertise here within this Forum when they are leaving for replacement for their room in shared appartment:

http://www.englishforum.ch/property-offered/

you will need to check which part of Switzerland they are offering

Good luck, hope it works out for you for the best
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Re: Rental agreement

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In general a landlord cannot prohibit a partner's moving into a flat, not even in a one-person flat. Only valid reason to do so is if the flat is in fact occupied by too many people ("überbelegt") if the partner moves in.
I'd say that if the flat is laid out for two people (e.g. 3 rooms) and a third moves in, that isn't a problem, but if e.g. you have a family with seven people living in a four room flat and the partner of one family member wants to move in, making the total number of inhabitants eight, that might be problematic.

You cannot demand that your landlord includes you in your partner's rental contract, though.
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In general a landlord cannot prohibit a partner's moving into a flat, not even in a one-person flat. Only valid reason to do so is if the flat is in fact occupied by too many people ("überbelegt") if the partner moves in.
I'd say that if the flat is laid out for two people (e.g. 3 rooms) and a third moves in, that isn't a problem, but if e.g. you have a family with seven people living in a four room flat and the partner of one family member wants to move in, making the total number of inhabitants eight, that might be problematic.

You cannot demand that your landlord includes you in your partner's rental contract, though.
Aha okay, because we would have no problem with Landloards,they are really sweet and with them its not a problem. But she rented a apartment with agency not with them. And apartments is on her name and her friends. I can also move in with my friend he lives in 3 room apartment he and 2 more people. He has his room alone, and these other 2 sleep in same room. So I would be sleeping in his room with him but on my own bed. I dont know if his agency would let this also. And I really cant aford myself and apartment right now. I will come here to work part time and will have only 2000 fr per month. I could maybe only get some room in someones apartment or house. But anyways thanks everyone for lovely advices!
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Re: Rental agreement

Hello guys one more question if its possible. Okay so my girlfriend will call tomorow the agency who she rented apartment from. Okay so when we get the paper from them allowing me to live with her, does she also needs to write on the paper that she agrees with me living there? Because I saw here on forum people saying that my girlfriend needs to also write on a paper thats he agrees that with meliving with her, and when I go to apply for permit she also needs to go with me and sign her statment there.

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Re: Rental agreement

I don't think the rules are exact - they just need proof you can support yourself, proof of address etc.

It can't do any harm to take everything - a copy of her rental agreement, the confirmation that you can live there from the agency/landlord and a letter from her confirming your status.

If they need more, because you're obviously trying your best they'll be sympathetic. If there's a problem, best approach is to ask for their help and advice, don't get difficult with them.
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Re: Rental agreement

My advice is to avoid joint contracts if possible, if things go wrong between you it can be difficult separating pocessions and responsibilities. Have a main contract and a sub contract, then it is quite clear. You can buy 2 blank contracts at a stationers, - shop selling paper and office materials.
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Re: Rental agreement

Okay guys, my girlfriend called imigration office today and they told her there will be no problem for me as long as I work more than 12 hours per week. And her agency also allowed me to stay with her, but only after she said that she will leave the apartment. Because its an old apartment and if she leave they would have to renovate everything, because no one would come to live there.

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