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Old 03.11.2015, 09:12
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Here we go again, noisy neighbour File No.3e20

I have looked at some of the 'noisy neighbour' posts and had sympathy with most. I hoped I wouldn't ever have to deal with such an issue....But here goes my rant after I have tried all said possible solutions, without wanting to use extreme methods of dealing with, yes, our noisy neighbour.

Sounding like all the other posts but before posting, and taking advice from the Forum, have spoke with my noisy nut job on 3 occassions, eventually got the police involved, after which the noise stopped....for a time.

On the occassions I've spoke with the neighbour, he has outright lied to my face and denied any harm or foul. So I was left doubting my own judgement, wondering I must be losing the plot, searching for noises that aren't there, or seeing things....

But I'm not the only one bothered by it in the building, however most daren't approach this person.

I'll tolerate just about any noise except when it's time to sleep, unless there is nothing one can do about it, like an infant, no problem, cry away oh little one.

When we first moved in, 4 months ago now, most of the time the place was very quiet, then on random nights the noise would start. I did notice that the person above us was vacuuming during the day, which is fine of course, but incessently for about 3 hours on an average sized apartment, must have missed a few spots, strange.

The first serious occurence, noise would start around 2200-2300, random banging, machines running, until I managed to fall asleep, say 3-4am, that is, when the arsehead above decided to go to bed.

But there was one machine that would buzz for about 30 seconds then end with 3 loud bangs, and that would go on the whole morning.

I confronted the duplicitous homebody, I was actually stood there replicating the sound in a hope to find out the source, sure, I felt uncomfortable, especially when the response came "Nope, no idea what you're talking about"

So for some time I slept with ear plugs when the noise would start, and did this for a while. Until one night it was bad enough, 1am, I called the Cops. They said go confront him, again, I went up and confronted the moron once more. Answering the door and looking sheepish, with his head peaking around the door, like I was some sort of contagious infected leper, flat out lies once again, though clearly, they hadn't just got out of bed to answer the door.

Quiet for a bit, then boom bang zip whistle sheeeeeeeesh bing bang. Time to call the Cops, this time they're coming. So the Cops arrive, first calling my mobile, missed call, damn, then ringing the doorbell.

Sudden silence upstairs. I let in the Rozzers, feeling like a prat for having to call them out on something like this. But hey, they have to do something besides bothering the public with tickets, thought I'd get my monies worth!
Explaining the situation in my best German, they were understanding and completely professional, good guys.

We went out on the terrace and all was quiet on the upstairs front, lights out, more noise on the moon, me looking like a fool, wasting Police time.

They went upstairs in search of answers, I went to bed, trying to sleep. After 3am, the doorbell rings.

I answer the door to see the Cops. In front, my 60 year old neighbour, looking like a child caught with their hand in the cookie jar, chin on chest, not looking at me, wearing what looked like a yellow baby grow with the zip up the front onesy, apologising profusely.

I asked directly for the truth, what are you doing, what is this damn machine? He starts spilling the beans like an in custody middle man drug dealer looking to make a deal in turn for freedom. This doofus is doing his washing throughout the night and the mystery noise turns out to be an old gravity spin dryer, above our bedroom!

He then starts apologising more, up until this point I'm saying that all is forgiven, forget about it, no big deal etc and patting him on the shoulder, no more crap. He starts shaking his head repeatedly, squeezing his nose and crying, literally sobbing.

The Cops start to look concerned and reassuring him like a child who feels bad having wet the bed, very strange indeed. I had the push the door shut to get him to go.

He came down the next day, again, apologising. Let's talk next time, he says, I don't want to get fined etc. No problem, if I hear anything, I'll ring you...I even asked if everything was okay, that we are not making too much noise, he said not at all, model neighbours Mr. Flanders.

Silence for two whole weeks, then last night, zip whistle sheeeeeeeesh bing bang.... I call him twice, no answer, text him, no answer. I'm out of answers, sat here tired writing this rubbish.

I don't want to get the guy fined by reporting him again, but what is the other option my good fellow Ef'ers?!

By the way, I did find out he had a severe head injury way back when......
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Old 03.11.2015, 09:27
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Re: Here we go again, noisy neighbour File No.3e20

Meh, report him. If he had a serious head injury, he might genuinely need help or some kind of supervision. Are private washing machines/dryers permitted in your block?
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Re: Here we go again, noisy neighbour File No.3e20

Your writing skills, Divesnowboy - top notch! I never thought a washing machine tale could be so riveting.

Dunno what to do about the neighbor though - maybe the other EFers have some advice on that front.
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Re: Here we go again, noisy neighbour File No.3e20

What else can you do? You've tried everything.

Call the cops.
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Old 03.11.2015, 09:44
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Meh, report him. If he had a serious head injury, he might genuinely need help or some kind of supervision. Are private washing machines/dryers permitted in your block?
Yeah, we all have one, there is no communal washing facility.
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Old 03.11.2015, 09:46
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Re: Here we go again, noisy neighbour File No.3e20

I did get a text back with all sorts of jibberish and excuses, so he's admitting it...again!
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Your writing skills, Divesnowboy - top notch! I never thought a washing machine tale could be so riveting.

Dunno what to do about the neighbor though - maybe the other EFers have some advice on that front.
haha, thanks Glow, actually writing this has cleared my mind!
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Re: Here we go again, noisy neighbour File No.3e20

One option that you haven't mentioned is reporting him (by registered letter) to your Regie/letting agents/landlord.
If there are already registered complaints about him and he's been formally warned before about his behaviour he runs a very real risk of receiving notice to quit his apartment.

You could try telling him that if he doesn't stop immediately you'll go down that road?
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Re: Here we go again, noisy neighbour File No.3e20

On a second thought re: running washing machine at night: Certain appliances (TV, radio, etc.) can be used at night at "Zimmerlautstärke" without the neighbors hearing them (unless you have walls made of paper). What is considered loud IIRC is usage of a vacuum cleaner. Probably a washing machine (at the very least its spin cycle) can be pretty loud as well, meaning louder than permissible nightly noise levels, depending on the machine model.

Does your neighbor run a(n intensive) spin cycle? Perhaps that's the problem and getting him to turn it off might reduce his machine's noise level in your flat significantly.
Perhaps a "Dear neighbor, please set your machine to spin in the morning rather than at night" chat/letter might help some. Is that possible (splitting washing and spinning cycles)? If not, ask the neighbor if he has a machine on which he can set the starting time in advance, and if he does, would he be so kind as to set it with a starting point at a later time of day. Perhaps his running it at 5am (if he really needs his laundry done in the morning and has no possibility to set it for e.g. 5pm so that when he comes home at 7-8, he can empty it) would give you some hours of sleep.
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Old 03.11.2015, 10:05
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Does your neighbor run a(n intensive) spin cycle? Perhaps that's the problem and getting him to turn it off might reduce his machine's noise level in your flat significantly.
It's a gravity spin dryer, that is initially manually operated and runs for the said 30 seconds. The type one finds at a swimming pool to take the water out of ones shorts. When it finishes, the inner barrel bangs against the outer walls as the power diminishes.
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It's a gravity spin dryer, that is initially manually operated and runs for the said 30 seconds. The type one finds at a swimming pool to take the water out of ones shorts. When it finishes, the inner barrel bangs against the outer walls as the power diminishes.
OK. Is there a way to set it to run at a later time as I proposed above?
If there isn't and it only runs for 1-10 or so times 30 seconds (depending on how dry he wants his clothes I guess?), I'd say he could just run the thing at 6-8am out of consideration for his neighbors.
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OK. Is there a way to set it to run at a later time as I proposed above?
So far he doesn't seem too responsive...his circadian rhythm's all awash!
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Maybe he runs it intentionally at night to save a few rappen by using off-peak electric?
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Maybe he runs it intentionally at night to save a few rappen by using off-peak electric?
For 30 seconds?

Also isn't off-peak from somewhere around 8pm to around 7am, giving him ample opportunity to run it at other hours during which neighbors are less likely to sleep (8-10pm, 6-7am)?
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Re: Here we go again, noisy neighbour File No.3e20

I'd imagine he's running a washer as well…

around here at least, off-peak kwH rates are from 10-6 (or maybe 10-7), i forget. 1/2 priced power.

I can't think of any other reason for the behavior, barring a late night laundry fetish..
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Re: Here we go again, noisy neighbour File No.3e20

Back to our first apartment here, we had a crazy lady who did a lot of things to bother us, on purpose.

Once, I called the cops, they asked me if I wanted them to give her a fine. I felt sorry for the lady and said no, maybe this time she understood.

Big mistake.

She took it as a sign of weakness on my side and she became more vengeful. I'll never do that mistake again.

Maybe it's different for your guy but I doubt. Call the police.
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I'd imagine he's running a washer as well…

around here at least, off-peak kwH rates are from 10-6 (or maybe 10-7), i forget. 1/2 priced power.

I can't think of any other reason for the behavior, barring a late night laundry fetish..
Good point and he is washing, he's the nocturnal onesey wearing cheapskate nutjob washerman!
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Back to our first apartment here, we had a crazy lady who did a lot of things to bother us, on purpose.

Once, I called the cops, they asked me if I wanted them to give her a fine. I felt sorry for the lady and said no, maybe this time she understood.

Big mistake.

She took it as a sign of weakness on my side and she became more vengeful. I'll never do that mistake again.

Maybe it's different for your guy but I doubt. Call the police.
When the Police came down with the guy, they made sure he apologised, cap in hand, like Oliver asking for more porridge. Once he did, I forgave and there was a nod of approval from both Police, I sensed there was a charge looming...And it was a mistake as he's waited, I've dropped my guard and now he thinks "I'll get this twat again!"
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Good point and he is washing, he's the nocturnal onesey wearing cheapskate nutjob washerman!
back to my post #9, second paragraph - ask him if he can set it (the wash and spin cycle, or at the very least the spin cycle) to run at a better hour.
Circadian rhythm or not, if he has that possibility, he can load the machine whenever he pleases and it runs when others aren't in the deepest of sleeps, waking them up.
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This is what I feel like, fast forward to 2:54


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