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Paperwork for cleaning lady

Hi,
I m considering getting someone to clean my apartment (not a company). What are the proper legal steps i need to do?

- Ask her if she has an accident insurance? If the answer is yes, shall i ask to see it or have a copy from it?

- Someone vaguely told me that i need to fill some form at the end of the year and pay some amount, anyone can help with more concrete details on that?

- Is there anything else other than just paying her in cash every time she comes?

Thanks!
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Re: Paperwork for cleaning lady

We just pay cash and do nothing official.. Yeah it's probably naughty but i imagine we're not the only people doing that. Our lady has a "proper job" too so she's just topping up on pay.
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Re: Paperwork for cleaning lady

Be prepared for your neighbours to report you to the authorities...

We had a cleaning lady via a colleague, who worked on an informal basis. After a couple of weeks the apartment supervisor caught her in the stairwell and quizzed her about what she was doing, which company she worked for etc. wanting to see paperwork.

The lady quit, so we had to get an official company in. She told us this has happened to her before. Apparently, cheap cleaning persons are hard to find in Zurich, so there is an element of jealousy if you have one, coupled with the Swizz desire for everyone to Obey ze Rules, that drives this nosey neighbour officiousness.

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Re: Paperwork for cleaning lady

Do you mean that having a person (not a company) is just illegal no matter what? I would be surprised.
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Re: Paperwork for cleaning lady

No it's not illegal to employ your own cleaner. Just illegal to pay cash in hand on a regular basis.

https://www.svazurich.ch/hausangestellte this is a link for a simplified way of paying a cleaner legally.
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Re: Paperwork for cleaning lady

This Swiss government brochure called "Domestic Work" might be useful to help ensure compliance with Swiss employment regulations:

https://www.ahv-iv.ch/p/2.06.e
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Quitt.ch is a good resource too.

The one thing that confuses me is the vacation pay. From reading, I know it amounts to 8.something percent for 4 weeks. And, the employee is not to be paid during vacation. So is the 8.xx% computed from the hourly wage over a year or something and paid at some point? It's the one thing quitt doesn't explicitly mention.
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Re: Paperwork for cleaning lady

I would echo the comments above to do things legally. There are several systems and they are relatively painless. The CH government is getting more serious about "exploitation of cleaning ladies" - as they see it. If you pay the extra charges AHV/AVS etc. you will be fine.

A friend was caught because of a dispute with their cleaning lady. He was taken to court by the authorities. He had to pay all of her back payments. He was very close to getting a notation in his legal file - a major issue at permit renewal time.

And don't forget to pay the accident insurance.
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Re: Paperwork for cleaning lady

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Well done for finding out in advance. At first, the steps can seem intimidating. Absolutely: please do it right!
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Re: Paperwork for cleaning lady

wrote this in 2015, t
http://www.englishforum.ch/employmen...ning-lady.html
he procedure has not changed.
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Re: Paperwork for cleaning lady

I've just started using Quitt.ch, too, and am pleased with it so far. The website is all in English (or whichever Swiss language you prefer) and you can email questions in English, which is always a relief. It certainly makes the whole process much easier.
 




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