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Agents specializing in finding new tenants to take on lease?

Hi All,

Does anyone have any recommendations on an agent who can help with finding replacement tenants to take on a lease? We are relocating back to Australia and despite advertising our apartment for the the last 6 weeks we've not had any success in finding a tenant to take on our lease (which has 9 months to run).

Can anyone recommend any agents or property companies that might be able to help with finding tenants (showing them the apartment, helping to manage the contracts etc?)

We've managed to get the existing property managers to post a homegate advert but they are not really actively helping with the process of getting access to the apartment to show tenants around.

Appreciate any guidance/thoughts/advice that folks might have in how best to manage this!

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Is there an elevator?


According to the ad there is not.


Many people looking at an "Attika" apt. look at the access.
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Re: Agents specializing in finding new tenants to take on lease?

Can you post the advert in english too? Why not have both given you are an English speaker.

The point about the lift is valid, is there one?

have you tried anibis?

Try new photos as well. Add flowers to the living area to make it more inviting, and something nice on the kitchen counter.

I saw one I applied for that went instantly, besides being a good flat she had amazing photos and it was mentioned she spoke english, french and german so I felt easier on ringing her had it not said that she spoke English.

Sometimes it's the little things
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Indeed- I am always amazed how little effort Swiss agencies and sellors make when wanting to rent a flat! At least yours is tidy- but often you see a messy kitchen, clothes on the floor, bed unmade, etc. The flat looks great, but as said, very clinical and cold- so excellent advice above.
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Indeed- I am always amazed how little effort Swiss agencies and sellors make when wanting to rent a flat! At least yours is tidy- but often you see a messy kitchen, clothes on the floor, bed unmade, etc. The flat looks great, but as said, very clinical and cold- so excellent advice above.
I remember one listing where the renter had this cute wooden cow collection and one photo was the little cows around the top of the extractor fan. Silly but I remembered that flat more than the bare empty ones

Photos of the area, was there a rainbow? pretty snow? is there a view? Is there a little tea shop you love down the road? All these things matter so much more than people think for buyers.

I know for photography for high end properties the owners are often shocked because it takes sometimes hours to dress a room just for a quick snap snap snap.
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Re: Agents specializing in finding new tenants to take on lease?

Very good suggestions here.
Yes, definitely add text in English. Also state that you (or the person you leave in charge) can be flexible about viewing times.
You could also find out if the owner would accept someone who would share the accommodation and, (e.g. a bunch of young professionals) and have this specified in the ad.
And then try advertising everywhere you can think of!
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- join www.couchsurfing.com and post in the City Group closest to the flat.
- take (pretty) photos and attach them to the ad and pop a copy of this in every private letterbox within a kilometre or two's radius of the flat. People who already live there and like it might be happy if their friends could move in nearby.
- By the same reasoning, hang up ads everywhere there is a community notice-board, e.g. in Migros and Co-op, at the local bio/green/alternative shop, at any School/playgroup, at the local library, in the municipal Offices. Not all of these places have boards, but use them if they do.
- Also contact all middle/large businesses in the area, by dropping the ad or better still personally, to ask if they are looking for accommodation for their staff.
- Try contacting all the institutions of study (universities, colleges) and medicine (hospitals, clinics) within about 40 minutes' commute from you, as they sometimes have to advise newcoming staff about accommodation.
- Also write a PM to anyone on this site who posts looking for a flat. Newcomers may not always have gotten the hang of using EF, and not yet know how to search, and you could approach them directly.
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Re: Agents specializing in finding new tenants to take on lease?

Great advice all- but back to OP - does anyone know of agencies that take on the job of finding a new tenant?
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Hi All,

Does anyone have any recommendations on an agent who can help with finding replacement tenants to take on a lease? We are relocating back to Australia and despite advertising our apartment for the the last 6 weeks we've not had any success in finding a tenant to take on our lease (which has 9 months to run).

Can anyone recommend any agents or property companies that might be able to help with finding tenants (showing them the apartment, helping to manage the contracts etc?)

We've managed to get the existing property managers to post a homegate advert but they are not really actively helping with the process of getting access to the apartment to show tenants around.

Appreciate any guidance/thoughts/advice that folks might have in how best to manage this!
You could offer a rent free period or a cash payment to take over the lease. An agent will want fees, probably a months rent.

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Re: Agents specializing in finding new tenants to take on lease?

Thinking about it, it would be a great job for someone I know- currently unemployed, with good legal and on the ground knowledge and fully bilingual. Salary 1 month's rent- perfect.
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Re: Agents specializing in finding new tenants to take on lease?

Not that it particularly makes a difference, but where are you moving back to, Australia or the UK? One of your threads says one and one says the other.

(Also: hey, nice way to beat the 10-post rule.)


On topic: while online portals dedicated to the search for a replacement tenant do exist, they tend to aim at solving the opposite problem, that of overwhelming demand. An example in this category is https://flatfox.ch/, where the model (no idea how well it works in practice) is that applicants compete to offer a 'success fee' directly to the outgoing tenant.

But if you're not getting many bites on homegate, where expressing an interest is free, I can't imagine you'll have people lining up round the block on these other platforms.

Or are you getting a lot of interest and the problem is getting time off work to organize the viewings?? If so, note that they don't have to be individual. You can schedule mass viewings on Saturdays, evenings... it's very much a landlord's (and outgoing tenant's) market and people will be flexible.
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...We've managed to get the existing property managers to post a homegate advert but they are not really actively helping with the process of getting access to the apartment to show tenants around...
This might seem surprising to you, but the property managers don't have much of a vested interest in helping at this point. Think of it from their perspective: They have a signed contract stating you're obliged to pay them for the next 9 months. If you find someone else to take over the contract, great. If not, they still get their money.

I think MathNut and fatmanfilms are on the right track. Hold an open house or two on the weekend. Be sure to have applications ready for folks to fill out and send to the agency. If the first open house doesn't do the trick, consider offering some sort of rent incentive.
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I think MathNut and fatmanfilms are on the right track. Hold an open house or two on the weekend. Be sure to have applications ready for folks to fill out and send to the agency. If the first open house doesn't do the trick, consider offering some sort of rent incentive.

The reality is that a 3rd floor apartment of that size at that rent without a lift is not going to attract many people.


I have had clients with apartments on higher floors with no lifts. They were mainly singles and the rent was very reasonable. Of course there were a few exceptions, very spacious top floor apartments on two floors with no lift. There are adults who don't mind, but anyone with children will not want this situation.


So I for one am very interested to hear about the lift situation. I do not see one on the floor plan and it is not listed as having one in the ad.
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Re: Agents specializing in finding new tenants to take on lease?

you really should post on anibis too. It seems to to be the 'go to' place for people looking for such deals.
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The reality is that a 3rd floor apartment of that size at that rent without a lift is not going to attract many people.


I have had clients with apartments on higher floors with no lifts. They were mainly singles and the rent was very reasonable. Of course there were a few exceptions, very spacious top floor apartments on two floors with no lift. There are adults who don't mind, but anyone with children will not want this situation.


So I for one am very interested to hear about the lift situation. I do not see one on the floor plan and it is not listed as having one in the ad.
I live in a house whose living room and main kitchen are on the third floor, no lift -- and I have twin toddlers. It's not ideal, sure, but we find it quite manageable.

So while the OP's apartment may indeed be overpriced, for the location and what it is (I've been living out here in the boonies so long that all Zürich-area prices seem outlandish to me ), I really question whether the lack of a lift is the deal-breaker you are making it out to be. It wouldn't be for us.

And if you're right and it is, there's not an awful lot the OP can do about that - are you suggesting they just need to resign themselves to paying nine months' extra rent??
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Guess it depends how young and fit you are...
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Re: Agents specializing in finding new tenants to take on lease?

In general - if the flat is on the second floor or higher then tenants will be looking for a lift - especially is the garage/washroom is in the basement. As fit as we all are the thought of 4 flights of stairs with bags of shopping is not going to be appreciated. The same goes for baskets of washing etc

It doesn't mean the place can't be rented but it is a factor especially if the size/location is suitable for a family.
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I live in a house whose living room and main kitchen are on the third floor, no lift -- and I have twin toddlers. It's not ideal, sure, but we find it quite manageable.
I think it makes a bit of a difference if one has to take everything upstairs straight away or not. In a house, one can leave heavy things dowstairs unril 'later' or ask Mr. Mathnut to bring them up when he comes home. Minor point but it might be quite convenient to leave the toddlers in the lower hallway while you drink a nice cup of tea in peace upstairs.
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Re: Agents specializing in finding new tenants to take on lease?

I'm moving to UK for a month and then flying back to Sydney from there. Hence the other thread asking about wine export/import rules for the UK which I assume you are referring to. I know we can't ship wine to Australia due to the strict quarantine laws but we can at least get it to our family in the UK.

Thanks for all advice on this thread. I've posted on flat-fox and have managed to find someone who is going to help with showing the apartment as we'll be out of the country from Tuesday. Fingers crossed we find someone to take on the lease as I don't really want to be paying for an empty flat for 9 months!

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Not that it particularly makes a difference, but where are you moving back to, Australia or the UK? One of your threads says one and one says the other.

(Also: hey, nice way to beat the 10-post rule.)


On topic: while online portals dedicated to the search for a replacement tenant do exist, they tend to aim at solving the opposite problem, that of overwhelming demand. An example in this category is https://flatfox.ch/, where the model (no idea how well it works in practice) is that applicants compete to offer a 'success fee' directly to the outgoing tenant.

But if you're not getting many bites on homegate, where expressing an interest is free, I can't imagine you'll have people lining up round the block on these other platforms.

Or are you getting a lot of interest and the problem is getting time off work to organize the viewings?? If so, note that they don't have to be individual. You can schedule mass viewings on Saturdays, evenings... it's very much a landlord's (and outgoing tenant's) market and people will be flexible.
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In general - if the flat is on the second floor or higher then tenants will be looking for a lift - especially is the garage/washroom is in the basement. As fit as we all are the thought of 4 flights of stairs with bags of shopping is not going to be appreciated. The same goes for baskets of washing etc

It doesn't mean the place can't be rented but it is a factor especially if the size/location is suitable for a family.
I prefer it without a lift:

1. You get less competition since lazy people will not be as interested and so easy to get flat and possibly lower rents
2. You don't get irritating lift noise
3. The enforced exercise is good for you
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I prefer it without a lift:

1. You get less competition since lazy people will not be as interested and so easy to get flat and possibly lower rents
2. You don't get irritating lift noise
3. The enforced exercise is good for you
Phil, you are the exceptions that proves pretty much every rule under the sun, which means in this instance ALL other people looking for a flat on the 2nd floor or higher will want a lift
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