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Re: Price to replace a kitchen counter-top in Switzerland

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Do you not have liability insurance? This is typically the type of thing that will be covered by that.
The owner has a one for the apartment. I will inquire about it from him.
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It's an apartment building. The owner subleased his apartment to us. The kitchen is fairly new.

Do you mean 1000-2000 or 4000-5000 range ?
The landlord may and will insist the laminate to be replaced by the original kitchen fitter. My guess would be around 2000 CHF. The counter top itself may only be several hundreds, but then comes the usual fare of fitting, transport, "kleinteile" and "Mwst" slammed on top of it all.

Invest in some sanding paper around 400 grit and try to remove the marks. If the top is damaged, you cannot do much worse. I spotlessly removed marks from laminate several times, but they were not deep burn marks.
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Do agencies normal charge for these sort of damages ? I mean the apartment building is owned by an agency and the owner pays rent to them and he subleased the apartment to us.
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Do agencies normal charge for these sort of damages ? I mean the apartment building is owned by an agency and the owner pays rent to them and he subleased the apartment to us.
Yes
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the apartment building is owned by an agency and the owner pays rent to them.
That makes no sense. Why would the owner pay rent to himself?

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That makes no sense. Why would the owner pay rent to himself?

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Building is owned by an agency and they have rented one of the apartments to my owner. My owner sub-rented the apartment to us.
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Do agencies normal charge for these sort of damages ? I mean the apartment building is owned by an agency and the owner pays rent to them and he subleased the apartment to us.
If the damaged is considered normal wear and tear, it may be covered by insurance. Landlords have been know to try to pass the cost of renewal of such things to tenants, and have also been known to back down when it is proven to be up for renewal. May be worth contesting.
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The landlord may and will insist the laminate to be replaced by the original kitchen fitter. My guess would be around 2000 CHF. The counter top itself may only be several hundreds, but then comes the usual fare of fitting, transport, "kleinteile" and "Mwst" slammed on top of it all.

Invest in some sanding paper around 400 grit and try to remove the marks. If the top is damaged, you cannot do much worse. I spotlessly removed marks from laminate several times, but they were not deep burn marks.
No they may not insist on this.

You are perfectly entitled to resolve the problem yourself, or using your own choice of company, the only requirement is that you hand it back in the same condition allowing for acceptable wear-and-tear.

If the landlord chooses a fitter they should do so at reasonable market prices for the job, which by the sound of things would be mid-level. They couldn't go out and pick some top-end custom furniture company just to fix issues in a basic flat, even if they were the original.

(Well they could, but you could insist on only paying the normal market-rate part).
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No they may not insist on this.

You are perfectly entitled to resolve the problem yourself, or using your own choice of company, the only requirement is that you hand it back in the same condition allowing for acceptable wear-and-tear.

If the landlord chooses a fitter they should do so at reasonable market prices for the job, which by the sound of things would be mid-level. They couldn't go out and pick some top-end custom furniture company just to fix issues in a basic flat, even if they were the original.

(Well they could, but you could insist on only paying the normal market-rate part).
Ok, so when I get the estimate, I'll post it here on the thread.
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Building is owned by an agency and they have rented one of the apartments to my owner. My owner sub-rented the apartment to us.
If he's renting, he's not the owner.

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If he's renting, he's not the owner.

Tom
ok. Sorry about the confusion with words. So you mean I should directly talk with the agency ?
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ok. Sorry about the confusion with words. So you mean I should directly talk with the agency ?
Do they know the renter is subletting to you?
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ok. Sorry about the confusion with words. So you mean I should directly talk with the agency ?
Yes, as they are ultimately the ones to decide if the repair is acceptable or not.

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Re: Price to replace a kitchen counter-top in Switzerland

I think your biggest problem is the deposit you have paid on the flat. If you are leaving, this will be retained until the dispute is settled. If you do not have insurance, the best is probably to negotiate taking it on the your "owner's" or the agency's policy. If you fix it yourself, leave and the "owner" keeps the deposit you are going to pay twice over.
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Re: Price to replace a kitchen counter-top in Switzerland

What was the final solution?
I have a very similar issue and i have contacted the Liability Insurance company. They confirmed to take the cost or pass it to the owner. Its more a settlement between insurance and the owner. Still waiting for the final solution.
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Re: Price to replace a kitchen counter-top in Switzerland

Thanks for using the search function even though you're an absolute newbie !!!
Do change your location, though, if you are indeed in Switzerland !!!
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Re: Price to replace a kitchen counter-top in Switzerland

That is a case for the obligatory Privathaftplicht-Versicherung everybody has to have. I hope you have one. If not, get one asap.
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That is a case for the obligatory Privathaftplicht-Versicherung everybody has to have. I hope you have one. If not, get one asap.
That's personal liability insurance for the non-German speakers.
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Re: Price to replace a kitchen counter-top in Switzerland

I had a friend who had no insurance and gutted the surface of the induction cooker - and had no liability insurance (thanks 3 Wishes!).

The private liability insurance company he contacted made a deal with him to date the insurance a month or so earlier. He paid some francs more than normal - but got out of a really very expensive replacement.
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That is a case for the obligatory Privathaftplicht-Versicherung everybody has to have.
It's not obligatory.

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